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It seems to be from Viney downstream. It has no subsistence, but you can see it on the graph, it is just wisps of a brown turnover in color algie. I too have had no trouble catching fish in and around it.
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Head meaning the wobblehead. I really do not use a shaky head. I will in most situations use a split-shot. Again today out of Baxter. I have two very good fishermen, both are guides in Canada. These are walleye guys and know how to fish slow and to either wobble or fish a rig. The boys tied today with 25 each. Had a combination of Jaws, LM and K's with a huge amount of keeps. Very few short fish but nothing big. Did have just some toad 17 inch K's. Had 6 fish all LM early on a fin and the rest were down fish. Boat in 20 to 25 ft. throwing in to 8 to 10 ft. today with the bright skies the fish were at 12 to 15ft. Out of Viney tomorrow. Good Luck
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Table Rock Lake Fishing Report April 21 2014 White River Outfitters Guide Service Surface Temps 60 degree water Clarity Turnover dingy. Lake level 915.6 Baxter, Mo. Just cannot remember the fish turning loose like they did on Sunday. It was a total Zoo and everyone out I'm sure had just one of those great old days. I know Champ and Donna approached TRIPPLE figures on Sunday, just completely crazy. Sorry I have been off the forum, but I have been out like crazy and have 21 more straight full days. I had Jack and Elise on Sunday, fisherman from Garden City KS. They had not been fishing in the last 5 yrs, but made up ground quickly as we boated close to 50 on a 1/2 day trip. Just silly. We fished a Head, a fin and a wobblehead along with a rig and a grub . Finally put everything but the down as you could just catch them so fast on it. Elise had 6 in 6 casts on one location and swimming the grub and led the way most of the day. All the guide buddies just hammered them and all commented it was the real kick off for the season. We caught them in again today but not as fast. Had 60 today on the full day trip but lots of nice keeps. Most today were on the wobblehead. Had 6 on the fin also along with most of the rest being grub fish. Most fish came under 15' on flat gravel for us. Good Luck, it is ON> Pictures are from Sunday
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Plug we may not know what we are talking about, but about 4 yrs. ago, we had a lake meeting here with the COE, and the Missouri Dept. of Natural Resources. There was also a member of the EPA at the meeting and they without a doubt said not one of the causes but the Number 1 cause of nutrients in the water on Table Rock Lake was fertilizer runoff from lawns. and fertilization in and around private homes. The composition of an extremely small topsoil layer that is then next to a red clay layer in 90% of this area allows for very low absorption of the fertilizer. Any type of rain will then let the fertilizer travel great distances under the topsoil layer along the top of the clay layer. My old notes from the meeting said anything within 1/2 mile of the lake can easily reach it. Here is another factor on Table Rock, as you know we have a COE setback and very much unlike Lake of the Ozarks this area is not comprised of septic fields to the extent that you are. Most developments here have pump stations and septic plants. There are a few septic fields here but not 1% of what you have up there. We have an evaporation field on our 40 acres. It is designed to not have the waste go down, The solids are collected in a tank and the evaporation field is very shallow sub-surface to send the liquids up thru evaporation rather than into the ground. Yes there is a land requirement for this but both Stone and Taney Co. are all about this. Especially Stone County that is very progressive. Yes this can only be used in larger area, as my evaporation field is a full 2 acres, and is located over 100 yrds from the house. This was extremely expensive, but the right thing to do.
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Simply Excellent
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Mill was that you in the pocket across form Joe Bald that the idiot came into? I saw another boat coming in from the front of the cove and we were coming from the back. This guy went one dock down from me and probably 3 docks in front of the guy coming into the cove, and started throwing an A-Rig at a brush pile next to a dock. WE were both already fishing that stretch and figured we would meet in the middle and say howdy, whom ever it was and go our way. Then this nimrod pulls right inbetween both boats.
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You don't want to go there bo. Let me put this as mildly as I can. The man is more than ready to fish any water at any time with any lure or type of presentation that the particular location warrants, regardless of the type of bait. You just saw the wart box. Did I see 4 V38's peaking out at me? At this moment I'm sending the pic to his wife with a stern recommendation for him to be watched at all times regarding the purchase of any further fishing tackle or equipment. On another note, we will not be taking any photo's of my tackle shop.
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We are just days away from a very good shallow topwater bite also. And do not forget the floating worms and sluggo type baits. Really the Keitech soft swimbaits are extremely light and work great. They just have to be handled with care and are a bait for an experienced fisherman that does not have casting issues. This bait is just as good as it gets, but they are EXTREMELY FRAGILE. Buster used to claim that the Yamamoto twin tail or the Yamamoto sinko was good for 1.5 fish. The Keitech is good for about A fish or even less if you give it a body slam. Carry plenty of super glue and do not be afraid to pinch a little off the head to re-hook it if it continues to slip down. Use every inch of that expensive thing up. Good Luck
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Thanks, I was wondering about the moss issues, if you all were warting, I'm guessing it was pretty clean.
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MB what area did you fish. Seems that there are some bad pods of moss forming. Really bad from Campbell Point to about point 19. Campbell Point to Eagle Rock is good up the White River. Then from Point 9 thru the dam area to about the 86 bridge it gets really bad. Point 19 to point 9 is also good, thru the Red Barn and Baxter area. All the river systems seem to be fine, with the exception of some in both big and little Aunts.
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Really do not know where that derby was out of yesterday, but for some reason they were as bad as I have ever seen on Table Rock lake, thinking they could do as they wished and be as rude as they pleased. There was a little club deal out of Schooner, and these guys were not the problem. I don't know if it came out of Cape Fair or where but they were hard to deal with. We usually do not have that problem here. That moss is really getting bad from point 9 to Long Creek, and alternative methods of fish catching these shallow fish is going to have to come into play. We were in the back of Fisher Creek yesterday and that whole right hand side has a very bad and very suspicious smell. I think there may be some excess nutrients getting in there from somewhere. There are also green lawns all over that area, and that is just not helping us. With over 70% of the fertilizer they are putting on those lawns running off into the lake this is going to get worse and worse. Why, Why? retired people think they need to move here and mow grass where grass was never intended to grow is a complete mystery. A guy that lives down the road from us has planted 3 acres of sod and says he just simply has no time to do anything else but tend it. ?????? I have not seen a single bed and I have really looked. It is but a matter of days however and after this cold snap there will be a rush to the bank.
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Guided out of Kimberling City yesterday on just about as nasty of an ole morning as I personally want to be out in. Tried to fish a split-shot and a wobblehead, but the slime and the moss have arrived in a huge way. Just seemed to cover our baits out to about 15' Gave that Idea up and started to swim a grub but had very little success keeping it out of the moss trying to catch these shallow fish. I just loved my guys to death as nice as could be but we struggled. Went to the shallow swimbait a Keitech Swing Impact with a 1/16 oz ball head, but a 3/0 hook. The boys tried, but these baits are made out of Smuckers Jelly and if you make one mistake with them they are destroyed. At 2 bucks each and even using all the super glue in the bottle, a couple of hard slams against the side of the boat or the water a ft. or two from the boat will do them in, snapping tails and disintegrating them. Tried to get them on a floating worm but still on a very hard morning only ended up with 3 totally all keepers. Had an incident of a Very Rude Tournament Fisherman cutting us off, pulling within a cast of us directly in front of us to fish a location I was headed to. Said he was in a tournament and if I wanted to fight him for the spot that is what I would have to do. He acted like he knew me, but I did not know him. He was in a beat up old worn out Red and White either 188 or 198 Champion. Just a total Jerk. All and all with the moss and the weather, not to mention completely out of line tournament fishermen it was a tough day on this old man.
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Really anywhere from San Succi on downstream. Kind of funny for us, the water when we started was 56 at Baxter and when we took out it was 56.8 Warmest we saw was back in Little Indian. At 57.7 and the coolest was at San Succi at 54,5. I have heard yesterday there are bedding fish. I looked in 4 pockets and under some ramps and did not see any type of bedding activity, but it only takes a matter or hours, this time of the year.
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Big you are a man of many talents. That is a very tasty mixed bag, good job on the river.
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I remember when Megabass first came out. I had big money big time bass fishing clients paying well over $150.00 each for those baits and not just buying one. That wart I was looking at I believe ended up selling for $85.00. I was not the bid winner.
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I'm pretty sure the warts made by brad have Brad's written under the bill along the rib.
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Mitch, great work. Here is a couple of questions. From what I understand the Wiggle Wart has had 3 phases in its existence. The first was the Storm Wiggle Wart that I am having a very hard time finding when the first one was first made. Most are thinking is was 1976 The molds were then sold to Brad and that is another phase of the wart the final phase is the Rapala wart. Was the wart you tested the Origional or the Brad against the Rapala wart? Or am I confused. I have some that were made in I believe 1978. The internet classifies the Origional as before Brad, and the Brad warts to be vintage. I was bidding on a color pattern yesterday on ebay and that particular wart was a 1982 model. I quit bidding at $65.00.
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Welcome to the North Bferg. Heard from the guides that it was tough today with the slick conditions. Welcome to the world of the Elite Anglers as you pretty much typified there week here. Joined the 11 pound club. When it gets slick like that the splitshot rig and the wobble head may be the deal glad you caught some on the keithech baits. They were a staple for Mike in the big derby. Beck and I are out of Baxter for a full day and will let you all know how it turns out.
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Guys, I simply cannot keep my mailbox from filling to full on ozarkanglers.com, so if you would if you wish to get in touch with me email me at the following address whiteriverbb@msn.com It has an unlimited mailbox and will always catch you. If my OAF box is full, which it always is, you will be deleted. The only other problem may be if you are emailing from a business. At times my computer will throw you in the junk box and I will not find it. I'll continue to do my best, but at times I do miss some emails. I have missed emails and have not responded to everyone. I try my best, but there is just to few hours in the day to do all this. Especially this time of the year, when we are running crazy here at the Lodge also. I appreciate your patients. Thanks Bill
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Grub bite can be very fickle. It was on a couple of weeks ago till the water colored up and then it went away. We fished Shell Knob today and had 45 fish on a 6 hr. trip. Ours came early on a jerkbait. It was just really one fish after the other for about an hour. The fish were NOT EVEYWHERE. You got on a good bank and you better stay there. If you found them you had better stay with them. Talked to the Berkley Boys early today and they were catching them at the Knob really good on totally different stuff than I was on. Could not get bit on the grub at all or the small swimmer. We went to the Chompers 5/16 wobble head with a Chompers Spider Craw or a Yamamoto Fat Baby Craw both baits in Green Pumpkin and Game on. I fished transitions with gravel and some chunk. Fished only 6 locations in 6 hrs. Caught fish on 3 of them. All on the gravel. Bill Berkley said they were catching them on 45 degree heavy chunk, and we just could not get bit on that kind of stuff. That grub bite is just getting ready. 60 is great grub water. Best I had today was 55.6 Had one nice walleye today and he was supper. That will just about cover my yearly fish kill total. I will have some crappie that a good buddy has for me and maybe a small mess of small male white bass, but the rest gets to swim. Did throw the wart some, but nothing on it. That water has really cleared up. At Baxter it is 15' visibility at Shell Knob, probably 8' depending on the side the wind is blowing onto. Good Luck
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I'm sure that will be asked in earnest.
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If anyone asked again how they were fishng or what they were catching them on after all the wonderful information that has been on this site, we are going to have a problem. You all bless your hearts have poured out your lake knowledge to those that would take just a few minutes to look at all our posts from the last 7 days or so. For this I sincerely thank everyone on this board. Just wonderful posting by all. Recap, there were many more, but these were the main culprits, that they had the best success with. Pre-Brad Pre-Repala Wiggle Warts: V38 Wobble Head crayfish imitation cranking style baits on Chompers 5/16 Wobble Head Suspending jerkbaits from Spro and Megabass Small Swim Baits with 3/0 hooks on either 1/4 or 3/16 That should be a wrap.
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Bill Babler replied to Bill Babler's topic in Table Rock Lake
Great info. That deal, might just be a bit out of the Ole Fissin guides price range. Gona stick with the jerker. Thanks Good Luck -
I heard there was more than just the 9 pounder that there were several other big fish over 6. I don't care what people think about that derby. It has been going on a long time and more often that not, even before the A-rig it always takes a bag. And, they cannot use the rig in It I do not believe. Those boys are not local, but lots of them have fished here for 30+ years and can catch them. You fish that Aunts Creek deal and you better be able to catch them. I also think some of those boys are runners. I do not think they leave a thing unturned. Really good bunch of fisherman in that deal, and what they say they catch is going to be pretty close to what it is. Really one of the best tournaments for non-locals on the Rock.
