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Bill Babler

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  1. Don't forget, you put a motor on a canoe and both it and the motor need a Missouri registration. Failure to lic and reg them will be very costly.
  2. If Mike can catch-em it has to be easy. He's a good Boy.
  3. It was full I cleared part of it. better address is whiteriverbb@msn.com
  4. Guys, please take a look at the Buy Sell Trade section of OAF I have my 2012 National Team Boat for sale. this boat is a Lake of the Ozarks Monster at 22' It will handle rough water and fishes like a dream. It is completely loaded and factory detailed. Tons of extra's and just a beautiful rig. It is setup to guide with and has 3 custom installed fishing platforms. Regional Rep has priced it at $45,595.00 You will not find a lower price on a 2012 921 ProXP with this kind of equipment. it is priced right at wholesale. Thanks 417-332-7016
  5. Phoenix Regional Rep is back from Vacation and seen the post. He has awarded me some additional compensation on my team representation and we are now able to offer the Phoenix 921 pictured at $45,595.00 this is pretty firm and it makes the boat come in at extremely low retail and right at wholesale. You will not find a nicer better cared for 2012, 22' boat in that price range. Hope this might help someone make a decision on this fine boat. Thanks for helping Greg.
  6. Finely have time to put this in the correct location. 2012 Phoenix 921 Grade 4.9 on a 5 point scale Medium hours on the Merc. 250 ProXs with 3 full years of warranty on the motor and 10 yrs on the boat. This is a team boat and after speaking with the Regional Manager the price of the boat is $45,595.00 Pretty firm. There is not a 2012 with this type of equipment and in this condition anywhere near that price. Completely factory serviced and detailed. Go to phoenixbassboats.com for a listing of standard equipment on the 921 This is the flagship of Phoenix Boats. Extras include Keel guard- Lowrance HDS8 in bow and console with down and side scan,interlinked, Hot Foot, Jackplate, Upgrade seats and center seat base for a 3rd. fisherman. Navionics chip for locator. Moose rack 14 rod storage on passenger side full rod storage on driver side Storage for 32 8' rods. Trojan and Pro Guide Battery setup with 1000 recharges available on this 4 bank setup. Trailer is equipped with Gatorhide Body Armor, Extra Heavy Breaking system {NEW} SS fenders, Chrome Lazar Cut Wheels, Boat and trailer are immolate, and completely ready to fish.
  7. Sorry Quill, the wrapped boat would be my fault. Pete Weeners called yesterday and said he needed some place other than where he had been fishing. We spoke a bit about our river area, and guess he wanted to give her a try. Boat should have been a yellow/orange Pro-Guide wrap with a big Merc. Sounds like you two had the same idea on water and locations, so if your thinking like Pete Weeners, your probably thinking pretty good thoughts. Good Luck
  8. Nice fish. Those two are worth more than my scrawny deep fish any day. Great Job.
  9. Git, Becky has suddenly gotten great interest in building an in ground pool here at the Lodge. Just about that size. She had it specked out with a nice stamped patio around it for tables and a changing room. Only came to just under $90,000.00. If your on taneycomo in the restricted zone look at the patio of the red ranch style home. The outdoor patio is 110' with a 10'X20' endless wave pool, a 8'x8' 8 person hydro spa. a complete outdoor kitchen and a fantastic enclosed wall with a stamped concrete floor. Was visiting with the owner one day and he said he had about $250,000.00 in the patio, not counting furniture. Again, if you leave it to the kids they will spend it. Good Luck
  10. Thank all of you. Yes, I don't set the price on new boats. As I stated my Banker gave me the loan value with all the equipment the boat features and told me he would be happy to make any loan on the boat with AC. This boat is really pristine. It is what it is. Don't want to get into a debate about buying quality equipment over something else or something cheaper as there is always something worth less for cheaper money. My stepdad and I loved him dearly never had a good piece of anything his entire life. Whatever he had he had just duck taped together. Even when I was a kid guiding and working out of my mothers resort, my equipment was better than my stepdads or any of the other two guides. I kept it clean, bought the best that my limited budget could afford and it showed. We had clients that would go with me when the older other guides including my dad would usually catch more fish. Every lady would fish with me. My boat was spotless and not stinking of crappie, minnows and cluttered. I did not have to dunk my reels in the water to make them work and I for sure never tolerated broken fishing line. I hate to fix things. I learned from my elders that fixed everything that if I would buy quality I would not have to constantly repair or jury rig stuff like they did on a constant basis. My stepdad before he died told me he had been wrong thinking, but grew up that way. He said I had more than convinced him that better equipment was better. He just could not do it that way. He told me to never change, and I have not. I use the absolute best that I can afford and we all know that really is what I deem is the best there is. This boat is a progression of advanced quality. I didn't start here but an now here. The trailer on my current Phoenix cost more than my first boat. Of course now its not a trailer, it is a HWY Transportation System, consisting of brakes that are bigger than those that used to be on 18 wheelers, Electric Breaking, Complete Armor Coating, No Paint, Stainless Steel LED lighting and of course the Vault System. Prusurized Oil bath hubs that the fluid change viscosity during temperature changes. The Electronics and Electrical system on this boat cost more than the brand new 1979 Chevy Blazer that Becky and I bought as our first truck. It was a completely loaded 4X4 We paid $5,595.00 for that truck. 8 grand in just electric on this 2012 Phoenix. We have a couple staying here at the Lodge. They are early 30's. She is a Bio-Chemical-Engineer PHD. He has a custom build Machine Shop. He keeps showing me pictures of cars he is turning out. He said most are easy 150 Large and UP. He has worked on the discovery channel Street Racers. Said most of those rigs are pushing 2 Large What I'm saying is money is only money, it is what you enjoy to do with the money you have earned and are earning. If you want a car great. If its a Bass Boat really great. It's your own business how much or little you chose to spend. Good Luck
  11. Quite abit tougher for us today. Had long time clients and friends Garry and Kelly Miller from KC. Both are experienced and very good hands. Hit the pond at 0700 and was not the first boat at the ramp this morning. I have been most of the last couple of weeks. I am in search of walleye and they are really not being very friendly. 1st. location was a main lake hump right in the middle of the White River that tops out at 22' Water all around it is 40's to 70' in depth. Just a great walleye location. We had 17 bass off this spot in under an hour with Kelly catching 10 and Garry the remainder. No keeper size, but fun. All on Crawler rigs. I watched and unhooked fish. This location is hard to hold as it is about the size of a tennis court. Next location again was a off-shore hump but it has a saddle that connects to the bank. Just about a good deer rifle shot off shore. We had 6 here in the 25' range all 15 inch fish. Surface temps had warmed up from 78.9 this last weekend to 84 degree by 9 a.m. Water was just flat calm and you could see every boat trail. It was muggy. Fished deep trees and flat rolloffs all the way up to the mouth of the Kings and only had 3 more fish. One here and one there. 23' was the number, and I looked as deep as 50' still with the walleye in mind. Saw no shad or surfacing fish all morning. Did see a few spoonbills, but nothing like I have been seeing. There have been paddle fish purging everywhere up the White. About 10:45 we started to get a little breeze. The last 3 locations were just runnout long points that are usually community holes up there and we caught 4 off one and 7 off the other. 1/2 were keeps, and all on the crawler. I threw a jig quite a bit up in the morning after the first onslawt but only had two fish and both were youngsters. Wind for sure made the difference and I believe they would have continued to bite, but it was time to head in. Not bad for August, but had to work a little harder than usual on my beloved White River. Good Luck
  12. None taken at all Jerry. My first boat that I purchased in 1978 was a Winner with a 125 Evinrude that I paid $3,500.00 new. I have been looking at Lund's and SeaArks. You know on a 21 to 23 foot metal boat it is pretty easy to get between 50and60K in one on the retail level. That is a metal boat. On these upper end glass boats really easy to slide over 60 grand without power poles. My banker told me the other day when he appraised this one that he has made several dozen loans this year on wake boats that were sold for $125.000 to $175.000 ie go to Shell Knob on a Summer Weekend. Don't believe they were fishing any tournaments with them.
  13. Thank you so much. I take such care of my equipment it feels good to have it noticed. This boat never spent 1 night outside of the garage, and was completely wiped down and taken care of after every guide trip regardless of how tired or how hot it was. It was serviced on time every time and Ulrich has complete service records on this boat. As you all know I offered pink slips for pink slips on how this boat preforms. It appearance is nothing more than aesthetics its performance and fish ability are without equal. Easily the finest boat I have ever owned. There is a 2014 almost like it setting in my driveway while this 2012 still gets the royal treatment in the garage.
  14. I believe that deer will push 130 here are a couple I have hanging at the lodge and they were Pope And Young measured by a certified scorer. 126 inch 10 point 142 inch 8 point 133 inch Non-Typical 23 point 172-122-162
  15. I will get this on the buy sell trade site, but just wanted to give you all the heads up that my 2012 Phoenix Team Boat powered by a Mercury ProXS 250 is now factory detailed and ready to go. You can go to the Phoenix website and take a look at the 921 ProXP and see all its goodies, with some in addition, including side and down scan on the HDS 8 units and upgrade seats and a middle seat base and ped. It has a keel guard and moose rack rod storage on one side. Everything is factory inspected and ready to go. Trailer is up grad with wheels and SS fenders. Of my 20 plus boat career, this is without a doubt as I have posted the best boat that either myself or as Bill Beck says either one of us have ever owned. These are big bad water boats with performance and quality this is really unrivaled in the BB industry. Warranty is 3 full years of Mercury Factory warranty and 10 years factory on the boat to the second owner. Our Banker was just here for our lodge financial statement and he said his loan value on the boat was $58,500.00 in this condition with the amount of warranty that is on the rig. Asking $47,995.00 You find a better 2012 for less and show me the price. You can reach me here or call my cell for a test drive or a viewing. This is one fantastic Bass Boat
  16. I don't think those were Brows. Looks like he has nubbins for brows or just short 3 inchers.
  17. I could not see any brow tines. And I am assuming some of the mass was due to velvet. Any brows at all would put him as a 4X4 and put him between 120 and 135. I've got a dozen on my wall between that 135 and 165 number to judge by. I have now forgotten the number, but I saw a herd launch one day off the Ramp at Emerald and swim the lake that much have had close to 20 in it. I think I posted the number back then but it was just surreal. You can always see does on the shoreline where that buck swam across, near Buzzard Cove behind the big dock. The Cedars on the inside of Viney hold just bunches of deer and I have counted aa many as 40 does in the yard of the house on the point going into viney. That however is the first buck I have ever seen on that side of the lake and of Viney Creek. Most times the bucks I see are over in the park itself after the tourist have gone home for the year. In that area, it is pretty easy for a buck to get 5 to 7 years old and that is what it takes to get BIG. I'll bet there are does that have lived their entire lives there and died of old age. I'm really surprised with the numbers there and I have mentioned it with friends that they have not gotten sick and had problems. They have most every other place when there gets to be a herd of that size. They have been like that for 20 yrs. over there and seem to be fine however.
  18. 3 different times I have seen deer in that exact location swimming the lake. Usually launching themselves at the ramp there and swimming across to Deer Bluff. Looks like he was coming from the Cassville side over to Golden. From where you were taking the photo, there are no fish on that runnout.
  19. That is pretty much as good as they get at Golden Missouri. That area of Emerald Beach is a huge Subdivision and there are literally hundreds of deer in it. I'm going to assume that deer looked to be at least 4 yrs. old. Would have loved to have seen his body. Last year in late October I launched one day at the back ramp at Viney and there were 4 bucks in the group, all shooters and all in the Park. The area holds some very nice deer. That Buck from the Photo's looked to be at least a 130 buck if it had eye guards. Nice photo.
  20. Several reports coming from Budds from the dam to Baxter, being just flat BRUTAL. Stone did tell me yesterday that a small Herd came up and saved his bacon on what was about to be a very stressful guide day. I believe he was in the point 9-10 area. Just really hard as these deep fish scattered and there were not a lot out there to begin with. Deep fish in the Summer is how we make out money, and this Summer, they have made us work for them. Even with my good few days up the White River, there are not lots and lots of fish on a single location, there are a few and they are scattered along the entire location rather than being schooled up. There is a shad hatch going on and the shad are about 1/2 the size of a dime. This is also a factor as they are keying on those very small bait fish and making it even more difficult. Thank goodness they are eating Crawdaddy's up the White. Did not hear what it took for Joe Bass on this weekend, but reports are there were some fish coming to the scales. My guess would be some fish in the bushes, but I never saw a derby boat up the White River this weekend, above the Kings River. It was however so foggy, you just probably could not get up there.
  21. Had the privilege of taking two different sets of regular clients the last two days on the Rock out of Eagle Rock. Fishing from Campbell point to Long Creek on the Main lake has been just dreadful since the rise and fall. Good Ole White River fish have kept me in the game. Most of our fish are coming on the flat roll-offs into the main White River Channel. Inside bends of channel swings are really holding quality fish as are the long flat points in that upper White River region. Best 5 with Rod and Will Sanders on Sunday would have topped the scales at 18 pounds with a super 7 pounder that Will anchored our string with on a PigSticker 3/8th. oz jig. Caught and released 26 bass mostly LM on the jig. Bout half were keeps with some very nice quality. Today I had Glenn Coffman and Step Son Jeff. Lots and lots of nice keepers in the 15 to 17 inch size with one very nice SM that was a 3 plus pounder. Probably close to 40 fish today on jigs and dropshots. Jeff had the best 5 and they would have tipped the scales at 13.5. Really respectable. Water temps both days at the start were at 78.9 and at the end at 80.9 Water is a bit stained with no more than 4 ft. of visibility. Every location both days we stopped we were the deepest fishermen. "Surprise, surprise." Lots of folks in close listening to my guys yelling and cheering. Not hearing to much from the bank fishing boats. Our fish started the day in the 18' to 20' with heavy fog cover. When we quit at about 11 AM both days we were still catching fish but most were in the 32' range, on either the jig or the shot. Yamamoto 4 inch cuttail was the best dropshot worm along with crawlers trying to catch walleye and kittys. Neither of those today. Yesterday we just fished the jig. I believe with this colored water and if we get the least breeze and or cloud cover the bass will bite all day up the White River if your on them. On a really bright note, we never saw a ski boat all day, and I believe we only saw 4 other fishermen. Good Luck
  22. That is just magnificent 1 fish every 2 minutes with that size of fish. Especially having to unhook those "Stickery" White Bass. You need to bottle that kind of action before it gets away. Sorry I cannot report the same. Most all the lake guides, even those that are ardent bass guides are fishing Taneycomo, we are just flat struggling on Table Rock. Glad someone has found the bite. Good Luck
  23. Went over to Beaver in Arkansas Striper fishing yesterday, and did well. Noticed and spoke to our guide about it and none of the Government parks in Arkansas are being mowed either. Noticed when we came back past Eagle Rock it was not mowed and looked horrible. Our guide Rich said none of the COE parks were being maintained on Beaver Lake other than the trash pickup and the bathrooms being cleaned. No Grass mowing. It was a jungle. I might have missed something in this thread, but he said all the mowing was private contracts and there was not being granted. This is starting to look pretty bad.
  24. Counting this mornings downpour, we have had 26.5 inches here at the Lodge across from Big Cedar, since last Friday. That may be short as my gauge only holds 5 inches and I have dumped that overflowing 3 times, so it may have been more. 1.5 inches so far this morning. This has cost me 9 guide trips on top of my worst Spring. By far my worst year since 1992. I have been pretty unlucky. Lots of women and kids scheduled this year, and they just won't go in this type of weather. Can't blame them. If I would have had guys, probably would have made them buck up in just this gentle rain. Can't do that for the ladies however. Might have been able to go this morning, but I was scheduled to take Grandma, Mom and daughter 8 yrs. old and that is just not going to work today. All my farm buddies are even calling for a halt, so hopefully it will stop soon.
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