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Yeah, but St. Louis is such a cesspool. I wouldn't eat a blackberry from there if I was starving. I can't help but think every time I flush, and I ate Mexican today so I'm flushing a lot, it heads right down there and comes out their faucet. Then they make it into Budweiser. And their football team sucks and their baseball team is a bunch of steroid-plumped whiners. Then they claim to be the gateway to the west, when it was actually Independence, MO where Lewis and Clark really started their expedition and the three major trails west started. And they've got that east coast accent and, worse, attitude. They're more east coast than Chicago. But their pizza sucks. And they never had a really good Mafia. The Hill? Prego tops that! Bar-b-que? What the hell is a St. Louis rib, and why would you cut that part off? We had a St. Louis chain blow into town and try to make a go a couple years back. They didn't last 6 weeks. And, who cares what high school you went to? Chaminade my arse! And why did you get rid of the Orangutans at the zoo?? Seeing the big buck Orangutan go bizerk and attack any smaller one that tried to eat the peas that rolled on the floor was the best entertainment in eastern MO. Anyway, I'm probably off topic here, so I'll let it go.

You're going to flip it WHEN it goes up? I see -- you're going to outsmart Goldman, Morgan Stanley, Merrill, Citi, JPM and all those guys, huh? They're gonna let you have some....what, because they've got enough already? I don't know if it's a good deal or not. What I do know is Gopro is selling, and companies usually sell when it's advantageous to THEM (which is the opposite of YOU). You may make a killing, but it's by no means a sure thing. That's just the way it works.

Well the guy I'm talking about is pretty resourceful and fishes a lot. He's not a BS-er, so I don't question it. He's just putting in the time.

Wow -- the same people who brought us Naked and Afraid, Amish Mafia and Moonshiners 'documentaries'?

OP hasn't been here since 2007.

Welcome to the forum, Mightystone.

The guy that floats the Kaw was catching crappie and largemouth and puts in at public accesses near De Soto and Eudora. I've never done it, but I do hit SM Park, Kill Creek Park, Lake Lenexa either in canoe or float tube fairly regularly. Another idea coming to you PM

Dang F&F -- another classic stick-in-the-head song. I had a severe problem with that one in the late 70's. Take that... and that...

Pissed away, huh? That was a valuable learning experience that I use in everyday life, like here on OA (see above)

No doubt. I hope I'm wrong.

Yeah, I remember somebody (maybe Eric) had some pretty slick looking wooden things with some kind of elastic loop to hold the rods down. I'm sure a Google would find a couple million ideas. My flyrods fit pretty well in my 16 footer with a center seat. Grips lay on the seat thwarts and the reels hang down. I can stick the tips up under the gunwales and the rods stay pretty snug.

Well, after about a 24 hour reprieve, this dang thread has Tight Pants going in my head again.

I know folks that fish the Kaw out of canoes and from the bank around here. I've fished Mill creek here in Shawnee and a smaller unnamed creek from a canoe a few times. Couple guys on OA here float the Blue in KC. I think Wayne did it way back when they were building nuclear weapons at the Bannister complex. I'd bet an enterprising young buck could figure out a crick to float. What about the Wakarusa down by the Baker Wetlands? Hell, I did prairie restoration work there when I was in school. Anybody gives you any crap, tell them ness gave you permission. Try not to trample the Indian Paintbrush, Blue Gramma, Little Bluestem and whatever the heck else we were planting.

Well said.

Me too. Yesterday I told a friend at work I was on 5 days with that song stuck in my head. It's a Small World -- that's out of bounds, F&F. I hate that song -- always have. When we went to Disney World many years ago, my kids could't WAIT to do that ride because they knew it would drive me nuts. And, it did.

I just saw that for the first time last week and I think it's one of the funniest things I've ever seen. I never stayed up late enough for Late Night so didn't know much about his show. Watched the "Best of" special and that's some funny stuff.

I think I've seen that same picture at least 5 times this year

What a gigantic waste of time and money all this is. It doesn't really matter what the heck their management plan is -- there will still be folks abusing the resource and nobody there to call them on it. Enforcement is, and likely always will be, inadequate. (Gavin, Andrew -- remember our Trout Task Force days?) Resources don't get allocated according to need -- they get allocated based on a toxic mix of personal interests, money, political aspirations, fear, embarrassment and who shouts the loudest. I really don't see anything changing much until there is some sort of a major problem down there. That's just the way we do it. I'm talking things like a few murders, environmental disaster, crime, disease. Something big that gets the NPS in the limelight and forces them to act. This roadshow and comment period is a joke. Does anybody really think there's a chance of a significant change due to comments received online or from the goofballs that registered early enough to spout their nonsense at the meetings? Sure, they'll give some lip service to 'the majority of comments we received', and it will undoubtedly support their plan (probably essentially unchanged). They'll get folks more in tune with nature by building a couple nature centers -- so they can point to them and say 'Looky what we did!'. And things will carry on just about like they do now.

What Quill said.

Natural selection will eventually cull out the ones that don't look both ways before crossing the street. Then we're in for it.

rps -- Eureka Springs doesn't make the news much in KC. I had no idea you guys were getting it that much down there. Like Quill said -- those curvy, hilly roads would be tough! Have a good day off

Andy, I think 9 is about where we ended up. I heard 13 in Manhattan.

Looks like about 4-6 outside, but I'm not gonna go verify that just yet. Chikin and dumplins t-minus 10 minutes.

14 Days??? Where are you? I don't think I've ever heard of that many snow days anywhere.

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