Another trip and this time managed to squeek out a limit. They were a little shallower, 20 to 25 feet. I noticed one thing though, 97% of those crappie we have been catching have been black crappie. Very very few white crappie. Any white crappie have been under 7 inches and not many of those. That is very unusual for us with this fall bluff fishing. I was wondering, Dutch have you noticed the same thing? Maybe the white crappie went to Florida for the winter. lol Just can't find them.