Bigredbirdfan Not A Lawyer

[bigredbirdfan]

Felt like I need to state for the public record I am not a lawyer as I was asked on a closed topic.

[Phil Lilley]

Neither am I

[davekeim]

So what are you Card fan? I'm as close to a lawyer as possible. Salesperson!

Signed,

Cardiaac

[bigredbirdfan]

Wish I was lawyer.

I sure as hell wouldn't care about gas price now would I?

I figure if it keeps going up the lake might return to a more pristine place.

Yes a Springfield and St. Louis Cardinals fan

[Trav]

As much as I have paid to my lawyer, I should at least own one? Haha

[Jason Essary]

Saw a picture today that said a lot to me, wanted to share it with yall.

It said......U never see a bass boat in a Psychiatrics parking lot.

[Seth]

I don't think I could live with myself if I was like some lawyers. They will do anything to get your money and that includes defending a cold blooded killer that they know is guilty. I have a conscience and rich or not, I couldn't live with myself knowing I defended a criminal.

Also keep in mind that I am not saying ALL lawyers or like that, but it seems many are.

[hoglaw]

wow Seth, your plan sure does simplify the practice of law. Only the innocent get attorneys. Maybe we could expand that to the civil practice too, only the side in the right gets an attorney. Then again, if we're going to do that, why even use attorneys at all? Why stop there, why not just throw out the entire constitution! That would simplify things quite a bit, and no lawyer would ever have to be in that terrible conundrum of defending the constitutional rights of his client regardless of their "guilt" or innocence.

I understand your notions and respect your sentiment, but as a practicing attorney (75% civil, 15% criminal defense, 10% municipal prosecution), I can tell you that it's not as simple as saying that you won't represent anyone who actually did it. There's a lot more to representation than "getting a client off" of a charge, particularly in the case of clients with poor cases (notice we don't say "guilty"). I will do the best job I can do governed only by my clients' informed decisions insofar as they don't conflict with the rules of ethics which always trump. If this means working hard for a guilty man, then I do my job and hope the prosecution does theirs (or the other way around when I'm prosecuting someone who I feel isn't guilty but where I still have probable cause to proceed). There are two halves in the adversarial system, and both have to work hard to get the right result.

[Seth]

wow Seth, your plan sure does simplify the practice of law. Only the innocent get attorneys. Maybe we could expand that to the civil practice too, only the side in the right gets an attorney. Then again, if we're going to do that, why even use attorneys at all? Why stop there, why not just throw out the entire constitution! That would simplify things quite a bit, and no lawyer would ever have to be in that terrible conundrum of defending the constitutional rights of his client regardless of their "guilt" or innocence.

I understand your notions and respect your sentiment, but as a practicing attorney (75% civil, 15% criminal defense, 10% municipal prosecution), I can tell you that it's not as simple as saying that you won't represent anyone who actually did it. There's a lot more to representation than "getting a client off" of a charge, particularly in the case of clients with poor cases (notice we don't say "guilty"). I will do the best job I can do governed only by my clients' informed decisions insofar as they don't conflict with the rules of ethics which always trump. If this means working hard for a guilty man, then I do my job and hope the prosecution does theirs (or the other way around when I'm prosecuting someone who I feel isn't guilty but where I still have probable cause to proceed). There are two halves in the adversarial system, and both have to work hard to get the right result.

I like to keep things simple. Nothing is ever easy I know that. There's plenty of stuff that goes on that I just shake my head and ask what's the point. Anyways, I hope you aren't offended or anything as that wasn't my point. Law is not my game and I don't understand all the ins and outs of it and what not. My posts was just putting out there what I seem to see happening when it comes to lawyers.