How Is This Economy Affecting Everyone Else?

[jdmidwest]

Ho, Ho, Ho and a Merry Christmas. Just what I needed today was an announcement that our business was going to 4 day work week, cutting payroll by 1/5 th. One layoff had already occurred and others are probably soon to come. The construction industry ground to a halt around here this summer and new home starts are almost non-existant. Many factories are laying off daily and the outlooks look grim.

How is everyone else fairing on here?

[FishinCricket]

I am sad to report that the outlook isn't much better here, and it's a commission basis for me! I keep telling everybody that it could be worse... And that's very true of course (I am still selling a few cars).. But it sure ain't normal! And it could be alot better for sure.. I sell new GM products as well as all sorts of used, so you can imagine the road I have to pave for a customer to work with me.. And the customers just aren't coming in.. And I can't say I blame them!

My wife is laid off, and as I said I work on commissions.. Things for round here (Lebanon) are looking bleak.. The factories in Lebanon are announcing layoffs and cutbacks left and right.. Division of unemployment is always full and NO JOBS.. People are plumb freakin out here!

[jdmidwest]

GM makes a fine truck and car, you really should not have to worry about that. I wonder how the Corp guys let it get so bad, or maybe they just started whining like some of the financial types did. I think what is hurting you is the media that seems to make it like it is impossible to get a loan for anything. It is hurting autos, RV's, and homes right now. I think the banks still have money to lend even though their investments have tanked over the past few months.

Around here, Limestone quarries that supply steel mills, factories that manufacture aluminum and components for the cars are all laying off.

I really think the major factor is all of the depressing media stories. If they would only show something positive sometimes, maybe moods would change. I guess that is why they call it a depression!

[zander]

I talked to an uncle of mine over Thanksgiving who lives in Wichita and works at the old Coleman factory. Things are really slow there and everybody is worried about getting laid off. My wife works for a hospital so her job is safe. I bought a house last week and then almost got canned this week because of my mouth. Learned my lesson pretty quick. The night before I found out whether or not I'd get the door shown to me I was looking through the job ads just in case and there really wasn't a whole lot out there. Powerball has yet to pay off for me but given how things are for so many others right now I feel like already won it in a way.

[Fishhand]

GM makes a fine truck and car, you really should not have to worry about that. I wonder how the Corp guys let it get so bad, or maybe they just started whining like some of the financial types did. I think what is hurting you is the media that seems to make it like it is impossible to get a loan for anything. It is hurting autos, RV's, and homes right now. I think the banks still have money to lend even though their investments have tanked over the past few months.

Around here, Limestone quarries that supply steel mills, factories that manufacture aluminum and components for the cars are all laying off.

I really think the major factor is all of the depressing media stories. If they would only show something positive sometimes, maybe moods would change. I guess that is why they call it a depression!

The documentary, "Who Killed the Electric Car" is a pretty good movie. It may answer some of your questions.

[Chief Grey Bear]

My wife works for a hospital so her job is safe.

That is what 160 people at St. John's in Joplin thought too.

[FishinCricket]

The documentary, "Who Killed the Electric Car" is a pretty good movie. It may answer some of your questions.

Sorry, what questions did he ask, exactly?

[bclift65706]

I owne a concrete construstion business work is slow as I have ever seen but I got started 7 years ago in good times went from 8 guys working last year down to 2 now and still cannot get a full week in. there is no resedential work at all and the commercial work is going down hill fast.I do got a 6 week job on the books to start next month and a big parking lot on the building we put in last month. I had so mutch stuff to do in the past I would give jobs to the guys that worked for me they would do them after work and on weekends and make the big bucks it helped them out and me to but them days are gone for now.

[denjac]

Our buisness has been flat since August. Just treading water right now. I believe its going to get worse before it gets better. If a person has some extra money its a good time to buy some stock if you pick the right one. May see ya all in a CC camp this summer building ponds and cutting grass.

[jdmidwest]

Half-million jobs vanish as economy deteriorates

Saturday, December 6, 2008

By JEANNINE AVERSA

The Associated Press

WASHINGTON — A half-million American jobs vanished virtually in a flash last month, the worst mass layoffs in over a third of a century.

Underscoring Friday's dismaying signs of a rapidly deteriorating economy, General Motors announced yet more job cuts, and a record number of homeowners were reported behind on mortgage payments or in foreclosure.

Wall Street found a silver lining, betting that so much bad news would force fresh government action to revive the foundering economy. The Dow Jones industrial rose 259 points.

Staring at 533,000 lost jobs, economists were anything but hopeful. Since the start of the recession last December, the economy has shed 1.9 million jobs, and the number of unemployed people has increased by 2.7 million — to 10.3 million now out of work.

Some analysts predict 3 million more jobs will be lost between now and the spring of 2010 — and that the once-humming U.S. economy could stagger backward at a 6 percent rate for the current three-month quarter.

"The economy is in a free fall," said Richard Yamarone of Argus Research. "It is as if someone flicked off the switch on hiring."

"It's a mess," said Mark Zandi, chief economist at Moody's Economy.com. "Businesses, battening down the hatches, are concerned about their survival and are cutting workers."

Work force exodus

President-elect Barack Obama said the crisis "is likely to get worse before it gets better," and no one was going to argue that point. Economists predicted the unemployment rate, which rose to a 15-year high of 6.7 percent in November, could soar as high as 10 percent before skittish employers begin hiring again.

The jobless rate would have bolted to 7 percent for the month if not for the exodus of 422,000 people from the work force for any number of reasons — going back to school, retiring or simply abandoning job searches out of frustration. When people stop looking, they're no longer counted in the unemployment rate.

The rate was at 4.7 percent just one year ago, 6.5 percent in October.

Employment shrank in virtually every part of the economy — factories, construction companies, financial firms, accounting and bookkeeping, architectural and engineering firms, hotels and motels, food services, retailers, temporary help, transportation, publishing, janitorial and building maintenance, and even waste management. The few fields spared included education, health care and government.

The United States — already in recession for a year, may not be out of it until the spring of 2010 — making for the longest downturn since the Great Depression of the 1930s, economists are now saying. Recessions in the mid-1970s and early 1980s last 16 months.

Unemployment peaked at 10.8 percent in 1982, still a far cry from the Depression, when roughly one in four Americans were out of work.

Recession pains

That said, more pain is certainly in store. Fresh evidence:

* A record one in 10 American homeowners with a mortgage was either at least a month behind on payments or in foreclosure at the end of September, the Mortgage Bankers Association reported.

* General Motors, already pleading with Congress for billions of dollars to survive the month, said it would lay off an additional 2,000 workers as it cuts shifts at three car factories starting in February due to slowing demand for GM cars.

President Bush, who used the word "recession" for the first time to describe the economy's state, pledged Friday to explore more efforts to ease housing, credit and financial stresses.

"There is still more work to do," Bush said. "My administration is committed to ensuring that our economy succeeds."

President-elect Obama said the dismal job news underscored the need for forceful action, even as he warned that the pain could not be quickly relieved.

"There are no quick or easy fixes to this crisis ... and it's likely to get worse before it gets better," Obama said. "At the same time, this ... provides us with an opportunity to transform our economy to improve the lives of ordinary people by rebuilding roads and modernizing schools for our children, investing in clean energy solutions to break our dependence on imported oil, and making an early down payment on the long-term reforms that will grow and strengthen our economy for all Americans for years to come."

On a personal level, right before Thanksgiving, Mark Pierce, 51, who was executive pastor at a church in Mansfield, Ohio, was given a choice: get laid off or take a lesser job with a roughly 40 percent pay cut. His last day of work was Tuesday.

"Anyone in that situation looks at it very personally," he said. "You say, 'Is this a cut across the board, or it just me?"'

It's not just him.

Employers are slashing costs as they cope with sagging sales in the U.S. and in other countries, which are struggling with their own economic troubles.

In recent days, AT&T Inc., DuPont, JPMorgan Chase & Co., as well as jet engine maker Pratt & Whitney, a subsidiary of United Technologies Corp., and mining company Freeport-McMoRan Copper & Gold Inc. all have announced layoffs.

Tom Solso, chief executive of Columbus, Ind.-based manufacturer Cummins Inc., said Friday the company planned to cut 500 jobs, or about 3.5 percent of its work force despite other cost-cutting moves such as temporarily shutting down plants, shortening work weeks and extending holiday shutdowns.

Fighting for survival, the chiefs of Chrysler LLC, General Motors Corp. and Ford Motor Co. returned to Capitol Hill Friday to again ask lawmakers for as much as $34 billion in emergency aid.

Workers with jobs did see modest wage gains in November. Average hourly earnings rose to $18.30, a 0.4 percent increase from the previous month. Over the year, wages have grown 3.7 percent, but paychecks haven't stretched that far because of high prices for energy, food and other items.

Federal Reserve chairman Ben Bernanke is now expected ratchet down a key interest rate — near a historic low of 1 percent — by at least a half-percentage point on Dec. 16 in a bid to breathe life into the moribund economy. Bernanke is exploring other economic revival options and wants the government to step up efforts to curb home foreclosures.

Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson, whose department oversees the $700 billion financial bailout program, also is weighing new initiatives such as tapping the second half of that rescue money to ease the economic crisis.

Obama, who takes office on Jan. 20, has called for a massive economic recovery bill to generate 2.5 million jobs over his first two years in office. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., has vowed to have a package ready on Inauguration Day for Obama's signature.

The measure, which could total $500 billion, would bankroll big public works projects to create jobs, provide aid to states to help with Medicaid costs and provide money toward renewable energy development.

For now that's cold comfort to Gary Cope, 33, who lost his communications job this week at Roanoke, Va.-based high-tech research and development company Luna Innovations Inc.

Cope was called into a meeting first thing Thursday morning. The message: He was being laid off, for financial reasons, effective immediately.

He left with a box of his belongings and about two months' severance. As Cope walked out the door, all he could think was, "I have a 3-year-old son and I'm a single dad."

"I came home and did my initial pity party, then I got myself together, talked to my family and went right to work" rewriting his resume and sending it out, Cope said.