Lead Ban In All National Waterways Even Missouri 2010

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Gee how about a rock with a hook in it??

[ozark trout fisher]

Gee how about a rock with a hook in it??

So I guess I will ask, do Panther Martins, Mepp's Rooster Tails etc. contain lead. I'm gonna be seriously bummed if they do, because that's my favorite way to catch trout. I'm not much of a jig guy, but this is really a bad thing for both the people who have to make them, and those who buy them regularly. Also one more question, is there even a significant waterfowl population in the Ozark National Scenic Riverways? I don't usually see too many, but I may be mistaken.

[drew03cmc]

Rooster Tails do as far as I know. I don't know about Panther Martins, but I would imagine they do.

[smallmouthjoe]

I really don't see the issue. If it's good for the environment it's good for humanity.

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[smallmouthjoe]

You don't see the issue....... The issue is simple. I can not fish with the lures that I want to fish with in the waters I enjoy fishing. To me, that's an issue. The Blue Ribbon Trout Areas of the Current and the Eleven Point already don't allow bait, but now I won't be able to even fish with any of the artificial lures I want to use. This really leaves spin fisherman in a bad position. Maybe that's not an issue for you, but it sure is for me. And a simple statement such as "If it's good for the environment it's good for humanity.", just doesn't fly with me. That isn't much of an argument, if you ask me.

Sir, this isn't a ban on all fishing. Do you really think that the lure companies that you spin fishermen use won't make alternatives? Do you really think that there are not alternatives already available? Are you so set in your ways that your willing to sacrifice the planet to out flank inconvenience. This planet nurtured your species for thousands of years only to have us evolve into the very thing that is going to destroy it. Are length limits a bad thing? Is fining people or companies that pollute a bad thing? The government is not doing this because they care about inconveniencing sportsmen, they are doing it because it is better for the planet which is better for humanity.

[bigredbirdfan]

Sir, this isn't a ban on all fishing. Do you really think that the lure companies that you spin fishermen use won't make alternatives? Do you really think that there are not alternatives already available? Are you so set in your ways that your willing to sacrifice the planet to out flank inconvenience. This planet nurtured your species for thousands of years only to have us evolve into the very thing that is going to destroy it. Are length limits a bad thing? Is fining people or companies that pollute a bad thing? The government is not doing this because they care about inconveniencing sportsmen, they are doing it because it is better for the planet which is better for humanity.

Did you read post #32? The same thing will happen to GM. The government will force them to make cars very few people want or will buy.

What they need to do is offer incentives to people who CHOOSE to produce non-lead fishing equipment before they ban it. Or at least subsidize those who make them out of something non-lead.

[ozark trout fisher]

Sir, this isn't a ban on all fishing. Do you really think that the lure companies that you spin fishermen use won't make alternatives? Do you really think that there are not alternatives already available? Are you so set in your ways that your willing to sacrifice the planet to out flank inconvenience. This planet nurtured your species for thousands of years only to have us evolve into the very thing that is going to destroy it. Are length limits a bad thing? Is fining people or companies that pollute a bad thing? The government is not doing this because they care about inconveniencing sportsmen, they are doing it because it is better for the planet which is better for humanity.

Nope. Length limits aren't a bad thing. As a matter of fact, I support a statewide 18" length limit on smallmouth bass. I do think that fining companies that pollute our environment is a good thing. But I just don't see the evidence layed out before me that this ban is going to help Ozark National Scenic Riverways at all. I would support this in areas that have major waterfowl populations, but I just don't think that's the case in Ozark. Somebody else made the point that it seems really silly to ban lead weights in National Parks while SUVs are still being produced. I mean, think about it. It's not that I'm not willing to be inconvienced for the environment. If I felt that way, I wouldn't support length limits on species of fish that I enjoy eating very much. I just don't see the point to a nationwide ban in national parks. I don't see enough evidence to support it.

By the way siusaluki, I'm glad to here there are some alternatives out there. I guess Spinner flies will still be okay, as well as most Mepp's spinners, because I believe Mepp's XD are the only ones that contain any lead. Their more popular models such as the Black Fury and Aglia should still be okay. I also see that some Panther Martins will be okay, but most won't.

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[bigredbirdfan]

NO, they already make cars that few people want to buy, thats how they got into this mess. Subsidies for non-lead, are you kidding me?

SO, what your saying is; there is product that is horrible for birds, plus the mining of it in the Missouri Ozarks has caused tremendous damage to some rivers/streams (some of which will cause missouri/EPA millions to fix), and you don't want to pay the extra $1.50 to buy a bag of tungsten or steel jigheads? There are alternatives, use them. I haven't bought lead jigheads in about a year now, I still use spinnerbaits with lead heads, but that is only because I haven't found an alternative that I like yet, but they are out there.

I am glad you have so much faith in the federal government. Our quality of life is going to be so good soon. Better than god intendended I'm sure. Did you turn off your lights Saturday night? Because it was witnessed that Al Gore didn't bother.