New Report On Reservoir Locations

[Buzz]

I'll put this here because it seems more of a conservation issue than general discussion. There are some possible locations listed for new reservoirs to supply water to S.W. Missouri.

http://www.joplinglobe.com/local/local_story_188215152.html

Buzz

[denjac]

I saw that. Better start scarfing up land around Granby.

[zsmith62]

Saw the article in the Springfield paper this morning... They had several locations where they could consider, the main one that stands out to me is the one they talked about on crane creek. Bad idea. Ill be the first to admit that I don't know much about this whole water usage thing, but It would make a lot of sense and save money if they tried to use existing resevoirs before blowing money on a new lake.

[Flysmallie]

I think it's a really stupid idea. Especially trying to dam up Crane. Are they serious? There are so many other lakes that they can take the water from and Springfield already has the pipeline from Stockton to Fellows. Well that is if it's working. Seems like they have had a ton of pump problems, probably just another big waste of money.

We can't keep destroying the environment to make way for more people. We have already lost so much and I am not willing to give up anymore. And it's not just about the rivers and streams. This would also effect family farms that have been held by the same families for generations.

I saw a portion of a program on the Science or Discovery channel over the weekend that talked about reclaiming waste water and purifying it for drinking water. I'm sure it's expensive to move to something like this but if we are already looking at 400 to 600 million dollars then how much more can it be. Yeah I know the thought of drinking your own waste is not appealing but it's something that we just need to overcome. The scientists on this program claimed that the purified waste was actually cleaner that what is coming out of most homes tap. This would also reduce the amount of waste that we dump into our lakes and streams.

I know that they are a long ways from making any of this reality but we to have to make sure that our voice is heard on this one before it's too late.

[Buzz]

One thing that stuck out in my mind was the concern for Monett. They are not near any creeks or rivers (except for the upper end of the Spring River)and they're wells almost went dry a couple of years ago during the drought. Like Flysmallie stated, Springfield has plenty of water around them. Joplin also has plenty of large creeks and rivers that are plenty close enough. We have Shoal Creek, Cedar, Center, and Spring River. I personally think that a large lake ( not a Table Rock like reservoir) for each of these areas would be able to take care of the added needs of these communities. They should also update the systems that are already in place. $400,000,000 would go a long way to update and repair all of the leaks that I'm sure are at least part of the problem. Not to mention pipelines that could be constructed instead of ruining some fertile generational farmland. They said that it would take as long as 30 years to get this accomplished. HMMM, what could be done in the next 10 years with that kind of cash?

[ozark trout fisher]

Saw the article in the Springfield paper this morning... They had several locations where they could consider, the main one that stands out to me is the one they talked about on crane creek. Bad idea. Ill be the first to admit that I don't know much about this whole water usage thing, but It would make a lot of sense and save money if they tried to use existing resevoirs before blowing money on a new lake.

We have to oppose this. There is no telling what a dam on Crane Creek could do to the wild trout fishery, plus the problems it could cause other streams.

This is worth fighting for if you ask me.

"We can't keep destroying the environment to make way for more people. We have already lost so much and I am not willing to give up anymore."

Flysmallie, you said it best.

[denjac]

Conservation of water is what they need to try first. A new idea that they are using in the new green area in Springfield is to reuse they gray water to flush stools. Yard watering is a waste too. Plant native mixtures in your yard you will have green in your yard without having to water. Lots of ways to conserve, but are we spoiled Americans willing to do it? Industry is the biggest water user by far.

[Poke 'Em]

We have to oppose this. There is no telling what a dam on Crane Creek could do to the wild trout fishery, plus the problems it could cause other streams.

This is worth fighting for if you ask me.

"We can't keep destroying the environment to make way for more people. We have already lost so much and I am not willing to give up anymore."

Flysmallie, you said it best.

Well, for starters, they wouldn't be putting a dam on Crane Creek. The report said it would be an off-stream reservoir, meaning they would build the reservoir next to Crane Creek and pump water from the creek into the reservoir, then the spillway would empty back out into Crane (through a side channel first).

Now, depending on where on Crane Creek this reservoir was located, it may or may not have a significant impact on the creek, at least the trout fishing part of the creek.

[ozark trout fisher]

Well, for starters, they wouldn't be putting a dam on Crane Creek. The report said it would be an off-stream reservoir, meaning they would build the reservoir next to Crane Creek and pump water from the creek into the reservoir, then the spillway would empty back out into Crane (through a side channel first).

Now, depending on where on Crane Creek this reservoir was located, it may or may not have a significant impact on the creek, at least the trout fishing part of the creek.

Still, we have enough reservoirs in this country. I am absolutely opposed to building even one more anywhere. Leave nature as it is!

And you said that water would be pumped from Crane Creek... For a creek that is already struggling with water flow problems, this could finally kill it.

[Wayne SW/MO]

Now, depending on where on Crane Creek this reservoir was located, it may or may not have a significant impact on the creek, at least the trout fishing part of the creek.

Any water removed will impact the fishery, period! Crane has struggled for years to stay wet enough for the trout. Low water means higher temperature and that's something the stream can stand no more of.