New Report On Reservoir Locations

[zsmith62]

I do not know what is being done to stop any efforts to dam any of the local streams, but I will surely join any effort against this being done.

Last year, I fished Crane for the first time, and fell in love with it. I had my accident in November, and am unable to fish it for now. When the time comes that I can get back there and fish it like I used to, I want to have something to come back to. I've never been to shoal creek but I think I'd want to go there someday as well. I will do anything to stop any kind of action to dam these streams.

[drew03cmc]

This entire situation is terrible. I hope some of our politicians can put the kibosh on any of this stupid talk, but I doubt that...

[Dutch]

Stop and think what went on when Taneycomo was put in. The river fishermen said BOOH it will kill the area, but it turned out to make that whole area with a renowned trout fishery.

I for one say dam that sucker up and see if my property down there will increase in value. So do the other land owners there that I have talked with.

Just how do you guys thing this would kill the town of Crane anyway? It has already been dead for 30 years.

[ozark trout fisher]

Stop and think what went on when Taneycomo was put in. The river fishermen said BOOH it will kill the area, but it turned out to make that whole area with a renowned trout fishery.

I for one say dam that sucker up and see if my property down there will increase in value. So do the other land owners there that I have talked with.

Just how do you guys thing this would kill the town of Crane anyway? It has already been dead for 30 years.

This post is not going to be nice. I'm warning you ahead of time. If you don't want to feel offended, then don't read it Dutch.

This is extremely short-sighted of you. Do you have absolutely no regard for the natural world? Is your property value all you care about? I am not willing to see one more Missouri stream dammed, not because it will hurt the fishing, but because I feel it is a moral transgression of enormous proportions. We need to stop thinking with our wallets, and begin thinking about what is best for the future of our world. As I said in an earlier post, we can only keep taking so long without it coming back to haunt us. The time has come to begin trying to make our world more like it should be, more like it originally was, not less. I will not sit back and allow those who do not care about conserving our earth plow over those who do any longer. I care. I will be fighting this.

Stop thinking about what will be best for your pocketbook in the short term. Instead, ask yourself what is the truly moral, right thing to do here. Damming a stream never is.

I guarantee you that in the state of Missouri there are more of us than you. We're not going to give up.

[drew03cmc]

Does Crane get business when we go down there to fish? Yes. There you go, no creek, no fishing, no money. Taneycomo did run out the native species. They stocked the lake with nonnative species that cannot self sustain, and as such are a burden on our hatcheries that are already strained. So, what is your argument to this? I would like to hear this. I am not a fan of nonnative species if they cannot reproduce. I love the fact that the rainbows in Crane have sustained themselves for 130 years. This dam, or should I say darn dam, will put an end to this and end the trout fishing in this southern Missouri jewel. The significance of this creek is the fact that this creek holds one of the last remaining populations of pure McCloud River Rainbows. If you are willing to throw that out, expect a BIG fight from TU and FFF.

[zsmith62]

Stop and think what went on when Taneycomo was put in. The river fishermen said BOOH it will kill the area, but it turned out to make that whole area with a renowned trout fishery.

I for one say dam that sucker up and see if my property down there will increase in value. So do the other land owners there that I have talked with.

Just how do you guys thing this would kill the town of Crane anyway? It has already been dead for 30 years.

True, but putting a dam on Crane will not create a Taneycomo or anything else that will really increase commerce in the area. Sure, the area may see a slight increase in business, but I think that will taper off in time. The lake that is being proposed will not be of sufficient size to support any kind of tourism.

Of course, as Dutch stated above, there are the people who support this, but then again, they are the ones who will turn a profit from this being done. I just do not see why we cannot first try and use some of our existing lakes, you'd think that doing so would be cheaper in the long run.

As far as the town of Crane itself dying, I believe only one other guy said anything about that. In the long run, I really do not think that the town will be changed much. Like I said, they may initially, but how about in twenty years? Putting a resevoir nearby won't really do all that much for the local economy.

I think that the best quote from this whole discussion came from Ozark Trout Fisher. He said: "The attitude of those planning this is basically "We'll do whatever costs the least in the short term, no matter the impact on the environment". It sickens me. It is people like those who want this reservoir, that could ruin everything this country is about. THEY ARE SO SHORT SIGHTED."

So, yes this may potentially put some extra change in the pocket of the guys that own property around there, but this is just as much OUR stream as theirs. Even if it did produce some great fishing resevoir, there already is a one of a kind destination already there.

[drew03cmc]

The plan is not to increase fishing, but water supply. I believe there are plenty of lakes and rivers in this area already. Honestly, what good would damming a true American trout fishing treasure do?

[drew03cmc]

Stop and think what went on when Taneycomo was put in. The river fishermen said BOOH it will kill the area, but it turned out to make that whole area with a renowned trout fishery.

I for one say dam that sucker up and see if my property down there will increase in value. So do the other land owners there that I have talked with.

Just how do you guys thing this would kill the town of Crane anyway? It has already been dead for 30 years.

Dutch, I have a serious question. If you do not care about preserving our outdoor heritage, why do you frequent a site that houses many hundreds of conservationists and conservation minded sportsmen?

[Al Agnew]

Well, Dutch, that was a great troll.

Taneycomo isn't much of a comparison. When it was built, it cut the White River in half, but didn't really affect very many miles of the river. The rest of the river at that time was still free-flowing. It just meant you could no longer float for 3 or 4 weeks from Galena to Cotter, you had to only do 2 two-week floats. And the native fish thrived in the small, shallow lake. It wasn't until Table Rock was built that Taney became a trout fishery. And although it's now an excellent fishery, it's pretty easy to find similar cold water fisheries in various parts of the country. Crane Creek, on the other hand, as others have pointed out, is entirely unique. A dam on it would TOTALLY ruin what makes it unique. And probably wouldn't raise your property values, given that it would be one small reservoir, possibly with restrictions on its use since it would be totally for water supply, in an area that has a plethora of big reservoirs nearby.

[Buzz]

http://www.senate.mo.gov/llookup/Leg_Resul...0&Zip4=8279

I did a look up for the elected officials for this area's ( the Shoal Creek location ) state Representatives and U.S. Senators . You can e-mail one or all of them with your concerns about the proposed reservoir locations. There is also a look up by zip code so you can find your area specific elected officials ( Missouri ), even if they are not from the proposed locations, and e-mail them so they know what is going on.

I intend to e-mail each of them. If and when I get a response I will let you all know what it is.

I did not have the 9 digit zip code for the Crane area, so I wasn't able to find the elected officials for that area. Someone who has that could put it up and we could get in touch with those individuals also.

I think everyone, even those out-of-stater's, should chime in on this if you feel strongly about this subject.

Save any e-mails you may receive. If needed these responses could be taken to the media, so we can let the public know that there are people out there who really care about the environment and the unique fisheries that are in jeopardy.

Buzz