New Report On Reservoir Locations

[Chief Grey Bear]

Actually the second one is 2) A receptacle for a fluid. 3)An extra supply; store.

No size requirements are listed, but I think lake sort of says it all.

Fishing, FISHING??? After all that you have the gawl to ask if I'll go fishing with YOU????????

Ok.

A lake can be as little as say 10-20 acres or as large as....who knows. If anyone saw the actual report, did it state anything about the surface acre size that was in the study?

Sweet! I was hoping you would say yes!

[CBNMO]

Chief, proposed size is 2,300 acres.

The folks that are proposing these lakes, (NOT ME), are doing so with the perception that the new lakes are a eco friendly solution to the problem! Capture surface water before it runs off to Table Rock, the White River and down to the Mississippi. Don't shoot the messenger 8>)

1. The lake on Crane Creek only has the capacity to supply what Springfield says they will need. Monett and the other towns would have to come up with their own supply, from another new lake closer to Joplin. This lake is only to supply the city of Springfield.

2. The water supply would be a little water from Crane Creek, runoff from rains, but the majority of the supply is to be pumped from the James River. They want the water supply from the James! The only reason it is being proposed to build the dam on Crane Creek, is that it is easier and cheaper to get permitting on a smaller stream. (again, I'm only pointing out what the report says)

3. I don't think the people around Crane will have a big voice in this when the time comes. I think it will be decided by the folks in Springfield. I'm sorry if some here think that I care about the cost, I don't care how much the folks in Springfield pay for water. I pay to pump my own. I'm just tring to point out that when the time comes, the decision makers will weigh in the costs. We have to convince Springfield, we're preaching to the choir here boys.

[Chief Grey Bear]

Do you have a link to the report? I would like to take a gander at it.

Like you say, when it comes down to crunch time...its to hell with mother earth and all of her inhabitants. With one exception though...humans.

Two things in my mind will drastically reduce the need for water:

1. Outlaw watering your lawn. Unless you have your own well. The more you water the more you mow. I don't water my lawn and I have a well. It stays green. Not a brilliant green but not brown either. So what! It's grass folks. It's not going away.

2. More efficient water conservation during processing. Companies, food companies mostly, use huge amounts of water. And we have a large concentration of food processers in SW Mo.

[Flysmallie]

Chief, proposed size is 2,300 acres.

The folks that are proposing these lakes, (NOT ME), are doing so with the perception that the new lakes are a eco friendly solution to the problem! Capture surface water before it runs off to Table Rock, the White River and down to the Mississippi. Don't shoot the messenger 8>)

1. The lake on Crane Creek only has the capacity to supply what Springfield says they will need. Monett and the other towns would have to come up with their own supply, from another new lake closer to Joplin. This lake is only to supply the city of Springfield.

2. The water supply would be a little water from Crane Creek, runoff from rains, but the majority of the supply is to be pumped from the James River. They want the water supply from the James! The only reason it is being proposed to build the dam on Crane Creek, is that it is easier and cheaper to get permitting on a smaller stream. (again, I'm only pointing out what the report says)

3. I don't think the people around Crane will have a big voice in this when the time comes. I think it will be decided by the folks in Springfield. I'm sorry if some here think that I care about the cost, I don't care how much the folks in Springfield pay for water. I pay to pump my own. I'm just tring to point out that when the time comes, the decision makers will weigh in the costs. We have to convince Springfield, we're preaching to the choir here boys.

Well if they leave it up to City Utilities in Springfield we are all screwed. It just makes no sense to me for another reservoir to be created to supply Springfield, especially one that requires pumping water, their track record isn't so good with that type of thing. It also doesn't make much sense to create a reservoir to pump water from the James to fill. Couldn't they just use Springfield lake for that?

[Buzz]

Chief, proposed size is 2,300 acres.

Thanks for that CBNMO.

2,300 acres? Does anyone know how big Springfield Lake is? I'd to find something to compare it too.

[Al Agnew]

2300 acres is a pretty big lake. That's nearly four square miles. Or, figure a lake that's 8 miles long and averages a half mile wide. I'd say the whole Indian Creek arm of Table Rock would be about that size.

[Flysmallie]

Springfield Lake is listed as 206 acres. So yeah, 2300 is a pretty big lake.

[Buzz]

2300 acres is a pretty big lake. That's nearly four square miles. Or, figure a lake that's 8 miles long and averages a half mile wide. I'd say the whole Indian Creek arm of Table Rock would be about that size.

Springfield Lake is listed as 206 acres. So yeah, 2300 is a pretty big lake.

Dang!!!

That's just rediculous.

[CBNMO]

Chief, here is the link:

http://www.news-leader.com/assets/pdf/DO13816678.PDF

It is the report, not just a newspaper article. I don't know how long this link will remain, so you might want to print it out if it's important to ya. Total is 126 pages. I don't know if this site can, or wants to, support a copy of it here?

I've read this a couple times because I live in the area. I think above I said that it would impact 17 miles of Crane Creek, but the report says: "estimated 17 miles of perennial and 10 miles of intermittent streams would potentially be impacted". It does NOT say 17 miles of Crane Creek. Sorry if I mis-typed/quoted, earlier. I like to try and keep the facts correct here so we don't get misled on our own ;-)

The conclusion says roughly, that damming Crane Creek would be cheaper than pumping from Table Rock, and about the same cost as pumping from Stockton. IF, they could get approval.

Just as important is the other proposed site for the Western side of the area. Site 8 is a proposal to dam Indian Creek in McDonald County and create a 3,800 acre lake to pump water to the Joplin treatment plant.

As they say, click on the above link and "READ ALL ABOUT IT !"

[Danoinark]

The lengthy report in that link can be saved to your document files by just clicking on the save icon.

Thanks for posting.

Dano