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I bought some White River 3/32 round tungsten beads (Copper in color) a couple of weeks ago from Bass Pro Shops. I used them to tie up some #14 Hair and Copper flies. These flies really catch fish. Anyway, I was on the Lower Illinois river yesterday and everytime I tied on one of these flies, I would catch a few fish and then stop catching them.

Anytime that I get a good couple of drifts through an area that I believe to be holding fish and nothing happnes, I check my fly to make sure that I don't have any moss hanging from it or anything weird going on with the fly.

When I checked the fly, the tungsten bead was gone. I thought, maybe, it had slipped off of the eye of the hook and was on the line. I checked. It wasn't. It had just broken apart and fallen off. This happened to all three of the flies that I tied out of that batch of beads.

Have you guys had this happen to any of you???

DaddyO

We all make decisions; but, in the end, our decisions make us.

Posted

I use a LOT of BPS tungsten beads both in that size and the one below it. I've never had that happen? I would be willing to bet it's just a bad batch. Frustrating but I would take them back to BPS. I'm sure they would exchange them and hopefully you could get some from a different lot #.

What is a hair and copper fly? I agree that tungsten flies catch a lot of fish. I catch most of my fish on zebra midges, wooly buggers, mohair leeches and scuds - most tied with a tungsten bead.

Greg

"My biggest worry is that my wife (when I'm dead) will sell my fishing gear for what I said I paid for it" - Koos Brandt

Greg Mitchell

Posted

Yep I've had it happen with T-beads when shortline nymphing. If you whip-snap the fly on your forward casting stroke sometimes they just kinda explode. Black T-beads do it worse than the others for some reason. I've even had them do it when putting the bead on a hook (forcing it over the barb, or around the hook bend).

It's wierd cuz when the "pop" they just kinda turn to dust.

Posted
Yep I've had it happen with T-beads when shortline nymphing. If you whip-snap the fly on your forward casting stroke sometimes they just kinda explode. Black T-beads do it worse than the others for some reason. I've even had them do it when putting the bead on a hook (forcing it over the barb, or around the hook bend).

It's wierd cuz when the "pop" they just kinda turn to dust.

That is interesting. I heard that noise behind me a couple of times and I thought that I had dropped my cast, but I knew that I hadn't. I've never had this happen before, to any of my T-beads.

DaddyO

We all make decisions; but, in the end, our decisions make us.

Posted
What is a hair and copper fly? I agree that tungsten flies catch a lot of fish. I catch most of my fish on zebra midges, wooly buggers, mohair leeches and scuds - most tied with a tungsten bead.

Greg

Greg,

Here's a pic of the Hair & Copper fly:

Hook: TMC 2487 #12 - #16 (I like #14 the best)

Head: Copper Tungsten Bead

Thread: Brown 6/0

Tail: Pheasant Tail Fibers (2 or 3)

Rib: Copper Wire

Body: Brown Dubbing

post-4960-1250453398_thumb.jpg

DaddyO

We all make decisions; but, in the end, our decisions make us.

Posted

Interesting looking fly. Thanks.

Greg

"My biggest worry is that my wife (when I'm dead) will sell my fishing gear for what I said I paid for it" - Koos Brandt

Greg Mitchell

Posted

That's happened to me more times than I care to think. I buy my supplies from many different sources to where I can not remember what beads from what flies really came from. I usually attribute the lost tungsten to a poor backcast hitting something behind me like a rock on the shore. However, I sometimes wonder if the beads were faulty factory seconds or something like that.

Don May

Don May

I caught you a delicious bass.

Posted

If possible, maybe you could put a few wraps of mono or your same thread color between the bead and they eye? Seems like that might give it a bit of a cushion.

Posted

I'll be honest... I've never had that happen with any beads before except glass. If anything does go wrong it is usually human error (read my fault) and not anything else.

That being said - I have never tied with the BPS t-beads.. so I should just shut up ;)

Is it happening to anyone else ??

cheers, Brian

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Posted
Is it happening to anyone else ??

Yes. To at least two others that replied to this post.

DaddyO

We all make decisions; but, in the end, our decisions make us.

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