rps Posted September 15, 2009 Posted September 15, 2009 Neat question Chief and good discussion folks. Thanks for creating a good thread. Query: If it has full fins, high color, and orange flesh, how do any of you experts KNOW it isn't a rare natural bred?
KCRIVERRAT Posted September 16, 2009 Posted September 16, 2009 Never. Come on you shouldn't take a beating on a simple topic like this...it ain't healthcare or nothing. Bigred... this wasn't the topic he was talkin' about. But all is said and done. This topic here is going great! HUMAN RELATIONS MANAGER @ OZARK FISHING EXPEDITIONS
KCRIVERRAT Posted September 16, 2009 Posted September 16, 2009 Neat question Chief and good discussion folks. Thanks for creating a good thread. Query: If it has full fins, high color, and orange flesh, how do any of you experts KNOW it isn't a rare natural bred? Great question... one that I can't answer. Laker's post was very informative to me also. I myself cannot remember catching a trout here in Missouri that had orange meat. So much sweeter tasting! Look, I'm a smallmouth guy. I do fish for trout in the winter at the places I know I can catch them. I would love to fish for those wild or stocked trout that have the orange flesh here in my home state! Colorado Brookie's are the best eating. I have done that... HUMAN RELATIONS MANAGER @ OZARK FISHING EXPEDITIONS
Greg Posted September 16, 2009 Posted September 16, 2009 I might be wrong but back when I used to keep trout - the only ones I cleaned that had the orange colored meat were the bigger fish from Taneycomo. I remember asking another angler and he told me a diet high in scuds or sowbugs gives the meat that color. That could be wrong though. Speaking of hatcheries and hatchery trout - does anyone remember an article written a few years ago about some experiments done with growing hatchery fish that looked and acted more like wild trout? In the article it stated that the trout chow pellets were missing some specific nutrient (copper?) and when that nutrient was added the trout colors brightened up like true wild trout. The other thing done was to limit human contact to an absolute minimum. Trout were fed in such a way that they didn't associate humans with the food. The article said that when these trout were released into the wild they looked and acted very much like wild trout right off the bat. I wonder if MO or Ark has considered this? Probably too expensive though. Greg "My biggest worry is that my wife (when I'm dead) will sell my fishing gear for what I said I paid for it" - Koos Brandt Greg Mitchell
Chief Grey Bear Posted September 16, 2009 Author Posted September 16, 2009 That's my take on it Chief. How about yours? Uhhh, well, Laker, it looks like I would be swimming upstream again. And I think instead of doing that, I better follow what I said and sit this one out. But boy, don't think for a minute I don't want to. Chief Grey Bear Living is dangerous to your health Owner Ozark Fishing Expeditions Co-Owner, Chief Executive Product Development Team Jerm Werm Executive Pro Staff Team Agnew Executive Pro Staff Paul Dallas Productions Executive Pro Staff Team Heddon, River Division Chief Primary Consultant Missouri Smallmouth Alliance Executive Vice President Ronnie Moore Outdoors
laker67 Posted September 16, 2009 Posted September 16, 2009 Uhhh, well, Laker, it looks like I would be swimming upstream again. And I think instead of doing that, I better follow what I said and sit this one out. But boy, don't think for a minute I don't want to. Fair enough! If you change your mind, I would like to see your response.
Brian K. Shaffer Posted September 16, 2009 Posted September 16, 2009 I remember when I was told that Crane Creek is a " totally wild and unmolested strain of fish ". Then I saw a truck there... taking fish out. Unmolested huh ? I know they just do not want the heat on them from messing with Crane Mc Cloud rainbows.. but they did want some eggs to create a Mc Cloud strain 1/2 breed for Taneycomo. Upside is - we have a 'wilder' strain of hatchery trout with prettier colors. ( on a side note, the parr marks on a juvenile full blooded mc cloud trout are gorgous ) Greg - I would like to read that srticle... where did you see it ? best fishes, Brian Just once I wish a trout would wink at me! ozarkflyfisher@gmail.com I'm the guy wearing the same Simms longbilled hat for 10 years now.
Greg Posted September 16, 2009 Posted September 16, 2009 Greg - I would like to read that srticle... where did you see it ? best fishes, Brian Brian I can't remember exactly where I saw it although it was posted on the internet somewhere. I did a google search and couldn't relocate it though. Greg "My biggest worry is that my wife (when I'm dead) will sell my fishing gear for what I said I paid for it" - Koos Brandt Greg Mitchell
bigredbirdfan Posted September 16, 2009 Posted September 16, 2009 Don't make the mistake of assuming rainbow trout are stupid. Go try to catch 9 inch freshly released fish on a calm blue bird day with no water flowing. There aren't morons in charge of these genetics and I'm sure they are as wild as they can make them. Why hasn't Al chimed in with an educated assessment?
Greg Posted September 17, 2009 Posted September 17, 2009 Uhhh, well, Laker, it looks like I would be swimming upstream again. And I think instead of doing that, I better follow what I said and sit this one out. But boy, don't think for a minute I don't want to. I'd be interested in your thoughts too even if the differ greatly from my own. But certainly understand if you choose to keep them to yourself this time. Greg "My biggest worry is that my wife (when I'm dead) will sell my fishing gear for what I said I paid for it" - Koos Brandt Greg Mitchell
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