laker67 Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 That's the biggest problem with this forum. You can't really say anything anymore without somebody jumping your butt and telling you how wrong you are. There are fish in the river, go catch them if you want. If these fish are not wild then who is taking care of them? Read back through my posts. I never accussed anyone of being wrong. I merely stated my views as did the rest of the posters. I jumped in on this topic to stir up some controvesy because here lately this "fishing" forum has been overwhelmed with boring topics. This dissussion has been entertaining to say the least. If any of you out there would wish to start a topic about trout, feel free to do so. I will eagerly await some entertaining subjects.
Justin Spencer Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 What a fun thread! For those who usually fish trout parks or other heavily stocked areas you are used to seeing trout swimming around. On the NFOW right after the stocking of the browns every year it is common to see these fish lined up in odd areas, much like they were sitting in a raceway. Most times fishing the blue ribbon area you will never see a trout unless it is on the end of your line. Those you do see are in the pools resting and are usually too big to fear any predators, this seems to be another characteristic of "wild" fish. While the browns over 15" act wild, having been in the river for several years, you won't hear anyone saying we have many "wild browns". That being said I firmly believe that we had a successful brown spawn last year and have a good number of stream bred browns in the river this year. I personally have caught quite a few browns <6" and with perfect fins, striking colorization, and better body condition than I have ever seen in the normally snakey looking stockers. The NFOW will never have a self-sustaining population of brown trout, but if you pay close attention to the ones you catch you will be able to tell the difference between our normal browns and these "wild fish" (look out Patagonia). "The problem with a politician’s quote on Facebook is you don’t know whether or not they really said it." –Abraham Lincoln Tales of an Ozark Campground Proprietor Dead Drift Fly Shop
ness Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 That's the biggest problem with this forum. You can't really say anything anymore without somebody jumping your butt and telling you how wrong you are. You're just plain wrong about that. John
laker67 Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 I asked a question earlier in this thread that I did not get an answer to. How many river miles in the BRTA ? Also looking at the 2009 population summary posted by Brian, it says browns have not been stocked in the BRTA since 94. My next question would be, do they continue to stock downriver in the red and white areas? Im talking about browns now, not rainbows.
Brian Wise Posted December 9, 2009 Author Posted December 9, 2009 The Blue Ribbon Area is a little over 6 miles. We get one stocking per year of browns in the Red Ribbon area and we don't have a White Ribbon area on the NFOW. Brian My Youtube Channel
laker67 Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 The Blue Ribbon Area is a little over 6 miles. We get one stocking per year of browns in the Red Ribbon area and we don't have a White Ribbon area on the NFOW. Brian Thank you Brian.
Justin Spencer Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 According to the milages in the Paddler's guide to Missouri the Blue Ribbon area is 8.6 miles from the upper outlet of Rainbow to Patrick Bridge. That being said most people really consider the area starting at the lower outlet, and few people trout fish above Kelly Shoals which is down even further, so Brian is right in that only about 6 miles of it gets regularly fished, but for those who venture upstream of Kelly there is another mile and a half of good fishing. I hooked a dandy rainbow between the two spring outlets the other day, and after getting it close several times he pulled loose, my own fault for not being patient, I put the screws to him after 5 minutes or so and lost what would have been my biggest "WILD" rainbow ever easily 20+ inches. "The problem with a politician’s quote on Facebook is you don’t know whether or not they really said it." –Abraham Lincoln Tales of an Ozark Campground Proprietor Dead Drift Fly Shop
laker67 Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 , my own fault for not being patient, I put the screws to him after 5 minutes or so and lost what would have been my biggest "WILD" rainbow ever easily 20+ inches. It's like I mentioned to Bman a few months back concerning a huge smallmouth. It's not about the win/lost record. It's about the fair chase and how we play the game. You, ultimately were the winner.
Greg Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 That's the biggest problem with this forum. You can't really say anything anymore without somebody jumping your butt and telling you how wrong you are. I disagree with that statement too. This has been a lively and informative thread. We are just not always going to agree. Brian I'd love to hear that story sometime. And I agree with your assessment of the NFOW. It is a jewel. I've been skunked there once recently (despite a lot of sage advice from you) but it didn't make me like the river less. If anything it made me appreciate it more. Greg "My biggest worry is that my wife (when I'm dead) will sell my fishing gear for what I said I paid for it" - Koos Brandt Greg Mitchell
Members kdan Posted December 9, 2009 Members Posted December 9, 2009 Well Justin, I am sorry you lost that nice bow. My ex used to tell me patience my little jackass, patience. Yeah, that irritated me too. Maybe next time, huh? I have come to the consclusion that no one is going to be swayed one way or the other. But it has certainly been a MUCH more entertaining topic than usual. So, wild or not good fishing to all. How about your thoughts on MDC changing the strain of rainbows they currently stock? This would interest me a lot more than money spent on "habitat", accesses, and more rules. I would like to see some 10# plus fish in less than 5 years of growth. My suggestion would be Shastas instead of the current McClouds. Any thoughts??
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