eric1978 Posted December 28, 2009 Posted December 28, 2009 Like I stated before, I am not the only user of the resources of this state. And to want it mangaged to suit what I want, is not right. I don't want it managed to suit what I want, I want it managed according to what is best for the ecology of the stream, and if the result means better fishing, good for us. If studies had shown that SMAs did not increase the productivity of a fishery, it would be a moot point and I would drop it...but that's not the case.
Chief Grey Bear Posted December 28, 2009 Posted December 28, 2009 Did you read what you wrote? Don't try to sell that you "are in it for the ecology" crap.(I say that with the tone of a raised eyebrow,squinted eye and broad smile) You nailed the exact reason you are pushing for it in the last sentence. An increase in production. Ecology and production are not even 3rd cousins. Chief Grey Bear Living is dangerous to your health Owner Ozark Fishing Expeditions Co-Owner, Chief Executive Product Development Team Jerm Werm Executive Pro Staff Team Agnew Executive Pro Staff Paul Dallas Productions Executive Pro Staff Team Heddon, River Division Chief Primary Consultant Missouri Smallmouth Alliance Executive Vice President Ronnie Moore Outdoors
eric1978 Posted December 28, 2009 Posted December 28, 2009 Did you read what you wrote? Don't try to sell that you "are in it for the ecology" crap.(I say that with the tone of a raised eyebrow,squinted eye and broad smile) You nailed the exact reason you are pushing for it in the last sentence. An increase in production. Ecology and production are not even 3rd cousins. Well obviously I have a motive, Chief. I'm not going to deny that. I wouldn't be here discussing it if I didn't enjoy the resource. But the ultimate outcome I desire, for whatever reason, just happens to be a product of healthier ecosystems. So I don't really see how motive is relevant. Either it's better for the fish, or it's not. It just so happens that tighter creel regulations have proven to help some fisheries, so I'm interested in seeing more of that. I wouldn't be pushing for regulations if they were detrimental to streams, so I guess in that sense, you can say I'm "in it for the ecology."
Wayne SW/MO Posted December 28, 2009 Posted December 28, 2009 CGB I don't assume anything, but I do know you seem to be opposed to any regulations and bring up the fact that your area has streams that are overpopulated. I've ask you several times what you consider overpopulation, how you arrive at that term. Whether you like it or not the future of quality smallmouth fishing in Missouri streams is not secure. many streams are overpopulated with small fish, but its not that the stream has too many fish, its out of balance from overharvest. If anyone thinks that some of the locals are going to hang stringers out with signs on them you're mistaken. The evidence is generally in the form of a cleaned carcass, and they can be hard to spot if you're not looking. I've worked with my sahre of "good ol' boys" and they aren't stupid about regulations, what the agent drives, or where they live. That doesn't mean you can't make regulations work, you just have to be satisfied they will work for most but not all. Its a whole lot more effective to back away from regulations on some streams then to come in late and try to recover on many. Today's release is tomorrows gift to another fisherman.
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