Guest csfishinfool Posted January 27, 2010 Posted January 27, 2010 I've haven't been to LOZ for years but was there yesterday looking at a boat for sale. Compared to Beaver or Table Rock that water just flat out looks dirty. I can't imagine having a place there and this all comes out... what a shame for everyone connected to that lake. The peoples who's boat I was looking at are selling everything and moving out of state. You might see a whole lot of that over the next decade. To compare table rock or beaver to the water clarity of Lake of the Ozarks doesn't make sense. Lake O has the Osage bringing muddy water from the plains into it. Table Rock and Beaver both are clear, highland reservoir. Plus Table Rock has had the same problem from the James for years!!!
fishinwrench Posted January 27, 2010 Author Posted January 27, 2010 csfishinfool, I don't think the water coming down the Osage is any muddier now than it was 10 - 20 years ago. And Lake O's clarity has definately gone downhill at a steady rate since then. I have pics from past seasons confirming that my memory isn't failing me. We had pretty blue water back in the 60's-70's, and sexy fishy looking green water through the 80's. Now we have what resembles a tanic brown stain that just keeps getting darker. I'm not diggin' it, at all. Sure the bass and crappie fishing is still good, but for how much longer ?. Other critters, like frogs, dragonflys and damselflys are getting fewer, and that's not a good sign.
hank franklin Posted February 2, 2010 Posted February 2, 2010 The way I see it. A home is unfit for human habitation if it doesnt have a working waste disposal system. Require an occupancy permit, and a sewer/septic inspection as a requirement to get an occupancy permit. Folks will complain, but they have no reason to. Electric, Plumbing, & Structural repairs are all costs of home ownership. If your septic's broke...Get it fixed...If you cant afford the fix...Sell the property because you cant really afford it. Cheers. What he said.
KCRIVERRAT Posted February 2, 2010 Posted February 2, 2010 Are most of the problems concerning septic systems, or city raw sewage, referring to the lower lake... where the money is? Just a waypoint, but Ivy Bend up to Truman dam. Anyone concerned up there? HUMAN RELATIONS MANAGER @ OZARK FISHING EXPEDITIONS
fishinwrench Posted February 2, 2010 Author Posted February 2, 2010 Are most of the problems concerning septic systems, or city raw sewage, referring to the lower lake... where the money is? Just a waypoint, but Ivy Bend up to Truman dam. Anyone concerned up there? Nope, all the action being taken so far (to my knowledge) has been where the money lies. There has been about 25 or so cases turned over to the AG so far and all the cases that are making the news are in the lower lake area. It's always going to be about money, that's a given.
Mr. Ed Posted February 2, 2010 Posted February 2, 2010 To compare table rock or beaver to the water clarity of Lake of the Ozarks doesn't make sense. Lake O has the Osage bringing muddy water from the plains into it. Table Rock and Beaver both are clear, highland reservoir. Plus Table Rock has had the same problem from the James for years!!! Clearly, (pardon the pun... or lack of) TR and Beaver are very different lakes but like Walleye said... that water is a funky brown looking. I live and fish and boat in Kansas where there isn't a clear body of water in the whole state and they all look better then what I witnessed the other day. Not hating on the Ozarks... just commenting that its a shame it got that bad. Hopefully long term action will start being taken to correct it. In the meantime you can count my group out as visitors.
KCRIVERRAT Posted February 3, 2010 Posted February 3, 2010 Clearly, (pardon the pun... or lack of) TR and Beaver are very different lakes but like Walleye said... that water is a funky brown looking. I live and fish and boat in Kansas where there isn't a clear body of water in the whole state and they all look better then what I witnessed the other day. Not hating on the Ozarks... just commenting that its a shame it got that bad. Hopefully long term action will start being taken to correct it. In the meantime you can count my group out as visitors. Hey Mr. Ed, I know most lakes over on the Kansas side aren't clear. Great fishing over there though! Maybe you've been on it, I don't know... but have you ever fished Wilson? That reservoir is crystal clear most of the time, especially on the lower end. And hey... LOZ is huge. If you're worried about the areas effected, most are on the lower end... (see wrench's reply). HUMAN RELATIONS MANAGER @ OZARK FISHING EXPEDITIONS
Mr. Ed Posted February 3, 2010 Posted February 3, 2010 Maybe you've been on it, I don't know... but have you ever fished Wilson? That reservoir is crystal clear most of the time, especially on the lower end. Never been to Wilson but have been wanting to give it a try... maybe this spring I'll head down there for some of their striper action.
fishinwrench Posted February 3, 2010 Author Posted February 3, 2010 And hey... LOZ is huge. If you're worried about the areas effected, most are on the lower end... (see wrench's reply). Let me clarify.... What I meant was that the lower end (so far) has been the focus of water quality testing and referrals to the AG on violations. I wasn't trying to imply that the upper-end water was better, although it most likely is, as far as pollutants are concerned. One interesting pattern I've noticed is that Zebra mussels seem to be thicker in the Hurricane deck area than anywhere else. The boats that have been hauled to my shop from other areas of the lake usually have a few mussels on them...But several boats from the lower Osage have been loaded with them.
Guest csfishinfool Posted February 4, 2010 Posted February 4, 2010 Clearly, (pardon the pun... or lack of) TR and Beaver are very different lakes but like Walleye said... that water is a funky brown looking. I live and fish and boat in Kansas where there isn't a clear body of water in the whole state and they all look better then what I witnessed the other day. Not hating on the Ozarks... just commenting that its a shame it got that bad. Hopefully long term action will start being taken to correct it. In the meantime you can count my group out as visitors. If you look at the DNR website there is an interactive map that has about 100 locations around the lake. From all the way from Truman Dam all the way to Bagnell, and everywhere in between. This highest levels of E-Coli, according to the test are found in the Gravios Arm of the lake. This was taken in October. The Gravios also happens to be the clearest arm of the lake. The E-coli is not making the lake dirty, point blank. When its cold, like it was a couple of weeks ago. When it warms up everything thats has collected ice, snow and any type of moisture melts into the lake. Bringing in sediment from the Nianguas, Grandglaize, Gravois and every tributary that connects to the lake. And now that the snow that we just had up there has melted, the lake will continue to be dirty. If we go a month with minimal rain and snow the lake will easily have 5-6 feet of visibility. Just two weeks ago in the Niangua arm the water was as clean I had ever seen it. And in a matter of two days it was dirty brown. You cant just say that this is the cause for this, because its not. Anyone who reads your post could mistake incoming rain water and sediment for visible dung floating in the lake. This has to be made clear. DNR
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