Fishing Rules

[CMAC]

Fished a night tournament last night and they said we were going to fish by "Corp" rules, I am not sure what this means other than they mentioned you couldn't fish around a commercial dock? Normally this means the actual dock were consessions are sold such as gas and grocery? But just wanted to hear what others thought or have experienced?

[dblades]

I think under the "corp" rules passed last year any dock that has rented slips is considered a commercial dock. It's also not just fishing that is prohibited around "commercial docks" all recreation is prohibited, so if you see someone swimming off a commercial dock, I like to go tell the owner he has to stop his customers from swimming or I'm calling the Corp on him.

[Bill Babler]

Here is a list of the docks that you are prohibited from Fishing;

Cricket Creek Marina

State Park Marina

Indian Point Marina

13 Marina or Port of Kimberling Marina

Cape Fair Marina

Baxter Marina

Campbell Point Marina

Viola Marina

Big M Marina

Eagle Rock Marina

Holiday Island Marina

All others are open game. The only other one that might be in qestion is Hideaway up the James as they I believe have gas on the dock. All others are OK.

[abkeenan]

Are wave breaks considered part of the commercial docks and therefore can not be fished?

-Brett

[Bill Babler]

Breakwaters are A-OK, they are outside the boundary limit. My gosh! if it were up to some of these floating gas stations, there would be no fishing on this pond. Just Jetskis and Cobalts.

[Stump bumper]

The last I read the Corps passed a law you could not fish/swim inside the no wake zone, but they are depending on the owner of the Marina's to enforce those laws. They were writing tickets over here on Beaver for wakes in the no wake zone but we only have one Marina running out fishmen.

[Gone Fishing]

Is the Long Creek Dock(Gage's) not off limits.

[SKMO]

This question got my curiosity up today and I called the Branson Corps office for clarification. I asked where I could read the exact wording as to the regulation. I got the major run-around and my call was passed to 4 people before I finally got to someone who said there was only one person in the entire Branson office who could answer my question, and they did not know where she was.

OK. So I called the Little Rock office and asked the same question. I actually talked with a fellow pretty quick and he read the regulations to me over the phone. Well, it was pretty strange wording, something to do with “no activity 100’ from the basis of central operations” or something like that. He was actually very nice but unable to answer a couple simple questions I had.

I asked him where a common person could find and review the regulation and he said he had no clue but he would fax me a copy. He basically said he would send it to me for my own interpretation. Well I do not have a fax. He was unable to email a copy, or send it in any digital format whatsoever, and there seems to be no internet source where the regulation can be examined. Wow. As we left it, he is USPS mailing me a hard copy of the regulation regarding this issue. I will scan it and put it here for all to see and maybe it will be clear.

I found it strange that nobody in the Branson office could answer the question. And Little Rock had the regulation in writing but it has to be hard mailed to me. Seems like a big secret or a joke to them. When I asked the guy in LR who would actually enforce this, he chuckled and said the Corps. I would think it would be hard to enforce any regulation that is not obvious to the casual user. Heck I spent some time on the phone today and still do not know the law.

Anyway it sounds like if you are 100’ away from any marina structure you are OK, but I’ll try to post whatever document they mail me for your own interpretation and enjoyment.

Stay tuned.

Actually just staying away from the marinas would be the best bet. There's a lot of water out there. Seems like there are a few As-hole fishermen and a couple As-hole dock operators who have turned this into a legal issue somewhere, when in fact it is just an as-hole problem.

[dblades]

The thing to ALWAYS remember about this strange regulation out of the LR district is that after several public meetings, The official regulations that was published is not what was discussed and agreed upon in the public meetings. It's getting to where you can't trust government in any form anymore.

[SKMO]

Well I did receive a hard copy of the regulation in the mail today.

On a whim I Googled "corps of engineers regulation 1130-2-57" and sure enough it was available on line the whole time, even though the "Regulation Expert" I talked with in Little Rock said it was not. Also he kept saying 100' when in fact it is 50'.

Anyway here is the exact regulation for your reading pleasure:

http://www.swl.usace.army.mil/parks/docs/SWLR1130-2-57.pdf