Judge Throws Out Missouri Some Hunting Regulations

[Randall]

Yeah, I would blast the hell out them. How are they going identify that it is their dog anyway???? And what about the tresspass laws?????

I'd be a little careful with that... even if a person is intentionally running dogs on your property, you don't have the right to kill them. If a person parked their car in your driveway you can't dismantle it with a sledgehammer. Protecting your livestock, however, may be a different story, I don't know but it strikes me as being comparable to self-defense. Trespass and nuisance laws provide a legal remedy, not the right to destroy another's property.

[Gary Lange]

Now because of some bone headed Liberal Judge how many Hunters that were convicted of shooting dear from a moving vehicle are going to appeal the case. What part of no hunting from a vehicle don't they understand.

It say plain as day

(A)Motor Driven Air, Land or Water Conveyances. No person shall pursue, take,attempt to take, drive or molest wildlife from a motor-driven air, land or water conveyance at any time. Except as provided in 3 CSR 10-7.431, motor boats may be used if the motor has been completely shut off and it's progress therefrom has ceased.

Sure seems plain enough to me.

[denjac]

. Except as provided in 3 CSR 10-7.431, motor boats may be used if the motor has been completely shut off and it's progress therefrom has ceased.

Sure seems plain enough to me.

I didnt know that about boats. I have passed up several deer while fishing during deer season. And my motor was shut off. Just thought it was only canoes and rowboats. Learn somthing new everday.

[jdmidwest]

You can't shoot deer in the water, there is a law against that, and an ethical issue. Same as running them down with a hound, it is a matter of ethics and they taste like crap after they are run with hounds. Makes them tough.

I am sure the MDC will appeal the ruling.

I also heard there is a group that is trying to get leased hounds approved to chase deer also.

[Chief Grey Bear]

Now because of some bone headed Liberal Judge

Why do you say he was liberal? It was a republican judge that overturned the california law baning gay marriage.

[jdmidwest]

Why do you say he was liberal? It was a republican judge that overturned the california law baning gay marriage.

I really don't think politics come into play in that neck of the woods, most are too lazy to vote. The judge was probably guilty of the same thing and was covering his butt so his buddies would not turn him in to get a reward. I think there was a bunch facing the same charges, but two of them had some money to fight it.

Same thing happens all of the time in little ole MO counties where the population is sparse and the violations are plenty. But it is not just around here, look in Illinois, Blagovich is going to skate on most of his charges.

[Wayne SW/MO]

It ain't just you. I understood them perfectly. And have for many years. Sounds like the judge likes to use his vehicle to chase deer to me.

I couldn't agree more. If you've lived in this state very long you know that these county judges aren't the best stewards of the natural resources. Many would like laws written to insure that they get their share, at least.

[Wayne SW/MO]

I am sure the MDC will appeal the ruling.

I wouldn't bet on it today. There's an overload of deer, they don't like to anger the county judges who are the front line of their prosecutions, and its one more thing they don't have to worry about.

Its not the same today as it was decades ago. At one time, even though each county only had one agent, the agent was likely a local and he knew who and where to look. Today the agents come from all over and the population is mobile, making enforcement 24/7 by a couple on agents very limited.

[ozark trout fisher]

I wouldn't bet on it today. There's an overload of deer, they don't like to anger the county judges who are the front line of their prosecutions, and its one more thing they don't have to worry about.

Its not the same today as it was decades ago. At one time, even though each county only had one agent, the agent was likely a local and he knew who and where to look. Today the agents come from all over and the population is mobile, making enforcement 24/7 by a couple on agents very limited.

An overload of deer? There may be in your neck of the woods, but not in Reynolds County (or Carter, or Shannon.) There really aren't that many deer down in that area already because the mountainous, rugged country just doesn't support a large density population. Those deer doggers are really hurting a population that isn't all that numerous to start with.

I really hope the MDC appeals the ruling.

[Wayne SW/MO]

An overload of deer? There may be in your neck of the woods, but not in Reynolds County (or Carter, or Shannon.) There really aren't that many deer down in that area already because the mountainous, rugged country just doesn't support a large density population. Those deer doggers are really hurting a population that isn't all that numerous to start with.

I really hope the MDC appeals the ruling.

Overall, which the regulations address, there seems to be. When you can buy as many tags as is possible today, some areas must have an overload. I think I read recently that if you hunt all methods you can kill 11 a year. Makes you wonder with that many chances why someone would bother hunting illegally?

I didn't say I hoped they wouldn't appeal, I simply speculated on a reason they may not. I'm not sure I agree with when it comes to the terrain limiting deer populations. Historically there were more deer south of the river than north, in spite of the agriculture in the north. While I don't doubt that poaching may be serious there and affect the population accordingly, there should be enough woods and White oaks to keep a lot of deer and turkeys happy.