Braid For Grubs Question

[dtrs5kprs]

For those doing it...if you are throwing braid on your grub rod, are you using some fluoro leader, or going straight to the head with the braid? Seems like it would defeat the purpose (getting grubs and fish out of deep trees) to spool 10# or 20# braid, then run a 6# fluoro leader, but I also have bad memories of braid, knots, tie ups, etc.

Picked up some of the new Suffix in 20# (6# diam) and some of their gold package braid in 10# (4# diam) yesterday. Have tied a few knots, played with it a little and am relatively impressed, at least sitting in the basement not the boat. Much less visible than the old power pro or spiderwire. Not exactly limp, but fishable. Thinking about running the 10# right to the grub, maybe using the 20# for dragging little rigs with a leader.

[Gavin]

I use the 6lb (2lb diameter) Suffix Braid in Hi-Vis Yellow with a flourocarbon or mono leader for plastics & jerkbaits...Attach the leader with a triple surgeons knot...Its way stronger than 6lb test, but the braid is so thin that you will need the leader for abrasion resistance. It will break at the leader knot if you get hung...but that beats the heck out of loosing a bunch of expensive braid and it seems to last forever. Cheers.

[Golf Pro]

I always use a fluoro leader with braid. I like 8 lbs XPS leader tied to 10 lb braid. I just prefer that almost invisisble fluoro leader. Sure allows a 200 yard spool of line to last a long time.

[CaptainJoe]

You can search some of my old posts for many detailed reports using braid (leaders, knots, type, etc.). But, I always use a leader on the braid except for topwater baits. I have been using Spiderwire Invisabraid for all braid reels and the grub rod; however, I am trying the new Spiderwire Florobraid on my grub rods because it sinks.

[dtrs5kprs]

You can search some of my old posts for many detailed reports using braid (leaders, knots, type, etc.). But, I always use a leader on the braid except for topwater baits. I have been using Spiderwire Invisabraid for all braid reels and the grub rod; however, I am trying the new Spiderwire Florobraid on my grub rods because it sinks.

Joe...I get the reasons for the leader. Guess it just brings up the big Q of why bother with the braid at all if I am still going to have my fish buttoned to fluoro? Probably the only real way to answer that Q is to try it.

[Stoneroller]

i'm using suffix 832 for grubs/crankbaits, etc. spiderwire fluorobraid is a similar product. both have a gore fiber wound into them which cause them to sink instead of float like normal braid does.

[CaptainJoe]

Joe...I get the reasons for the leader. Guess it just brings up the big Q of why bother with the braid at all if I am still going to have my fish buttoned to fluoro? Probably the only real way to answer that Q is to try it.

Several reasons: Because the braid has no stretch, you can feel the slightest bite. The no stretch also gives you "some" leverage when trying to get unsnagged (new word I made up). Finally, the braid last a long time. I am on year four, yes four, on some of my reels. The stuff just does not wear out. On the rods using the Spiderwire Invisabraid, since it is white in color, you can clearly see the line in any color water. Hope this helps.

[CaptainJoe]

i'm using suffix 832 for grubs/crankbaits, etc. spiderwire fluorobraid is a similar product. both have a gore fiber wound into them which cause them to sink instead of float like normal braid does.

I am not sure that I will use the sinking braid on crankbaits. I will try it, but I do not think that I will care for it because I want that little bit of stretch in the floro when trying to backoff a crankbait stuck to something.

[inshore]

just moved back to springfield from pcbeach,fl.. ran a 28ftr private boat for a friend and averaged fishing offshore and bay five days a week fot 10 years. used power pro

on most rods and had a minimum of problems. used hi vis and with fluro leader. always attached with a uni knot. found put one more wrap on the power pro than on the leader.

also found most broken leaders caused by drags to tight. about half of what you use on mono works well and because of no stretch will tear their lips off.

[fozzype]

I am trying braid with leader for the first time this year for finesse fishing. The reason - "florobraid"-- as Capt. Joe Said, it sinks. (It doesn't sink like floro in my opinion) I like to fish very light heads at deep depths. On spinning gear, the 8 and 10 lb floro stinks and has a short life.

Look up the "Albright" knot. I have used it before and it is great. It also is irrelevant to the difference in the line diameters, the surgen's knot has to have lines of close to same diameter.

Why would you use 6 or 8 lbs for a leader ? Floro is virtually invisible and using heavy line for leader does not effect the castability and/or workability of the bait. I am using 12 and 15 lb floro on the 20-6lb braid. It seems to catch fish in clear water fine.

Any advise to my asumptions is appreciated. And for crying out loud, somebody give me a good wart report so I can fish without thinking !!! Chuck and Dunk Daily if Possible.