Shoal Creek Is Private Property?

[Gavin]

You need to work up a number 6 on him.

I'm not familiar with that.

[Trout Commander]

Well you go get him, tiger... Just don't forget to pack a lunch!

Where's your fishing report buddy? Was that a comfy ride for the day, or what?

Been busy at work yesterday and today. Got the post almost ready to put on my blog. Mind if I borrow your fish pics since I don't have any of my own? No seriously. Do you care?

[FishinCricket]

Been busy at work yesterday and today. Got the post almost ready to put on my blog. Mind if I borrow your fish pics since I don't have any of my own? No seriously. Do you care?

Of course not, help yourself!

[Trout Commander]

Sweet. Thanks!

[Trout Commander]

Oh and did you get any of the ones that Tony took?

Anyone else have any fish pics from the float to loan out?

[FishinCricket]

Oh and did you get any of the ones that Tony took?

Anyone else have any fish pics from the float to loan out?

No, Tony hasn't emailed me those pics yet... (I'm more interested in the video)

Chief has some pics that he hasn't posted yet, methinks...

[woodman]

It was definitely You-tube material, maby next time he can be caught on tape...

[Chief Grey Bear]

Yeah I got some pics coming this evening. I'll put them in the REPORT thread. Look for them there.

Thanks for the concern ness. As of this moment, I am still a free man.

And I think wayne has a great idea. That is what WE ALL NEED TO DO. And it goes along with what Al is saying. Now is the time to band together! Let's stand for our rights under the law. Nothing more, nothing less.

I think I will start one other thread on this subject for everyone that has a concern for their right to fish the streams of Missouri that has alread been awarded to us needs to post to this thread. I urge you to keep them on a professional level and I will show them to Mr. Copeland.

[troutfiend1985]

This is according to DNR's material.

What rights do I have to keep floaters (or fisherman or canoers) off my property (or lake

or pond or stream)?

Many water use questions involve private property rights. As a property owner, you have the

right to choose who may and may not come onto your property. Those who walk or drive onto

your property without your permission are trespassers. You may consider posting your land with

signs, or purple paint. This warns any potential trespassers to stay off. If the lake or pond is

entirely on your property, and not a part of a navigable stream system, you have the right to

keep trespassers off it as well. Contact your county sheriff to deal with trespassers. If your

stream is floatable, the canoer has a right to float past your property on the water, but not to

trespass on your land. If you own both sides of the stream and the bed of the stream, a

fisherman walking on your streambed may be trespassing on your land. Each situation has its

own conditions that may apply. Visit a law library or consult an attorney.

I was really bummed I couldn't join everyone on this float now it looks like I missed an opportunity to go to jail. I don't do well with situations like this I would have told this jerk to stick where the sun don't shine.

It appears that the DNR is wrong "If you own both sides of the stream and the bed of the stream, a fisherman walking on your streambed may be trespassing on your land." That was clearly established by Elder 57 years with the wading rights of floatable streams in that case. This is why this issue gets confused on clearly floatable streams. The gray (before I saw the pictures) was the size of the stream, where these guys were at, there is no question that the stream was easily floatable.

[Wayne SW/MO]

Great idea Chief.

I think the complaints should be in the form of concerns about floating in that county. It should be pointed out that the concern isn't about trespassing on land, but on the stream bed, something you can contact at anytime, intentionally or not.

I think it could also be pointed out that if this is the legal stance of the county, then they or the MDC should warn people at the public access points.

I wouldn't make any threats, at least not obvious ones, and not question the county's stance on the subject, just the personal concerns and that your money might be better spent in a more floater friendly county.

The landowner may not have as many buddies as he thinks if the powers that be get enough people voicing concerns.