Any Knowledge On How The Floods Will Affect The River?

[Nortrad]

Just my relatively new observations, only been fishing this river for 3 yrs. or so, a nice hole I used to pull fish out of was filled in with gravel during the last period of really high water. But, on the other hand, new structure and some new holes have been scoured out. Any guidance? Or, is the response,"It depends..."?

[ColdWaterFshr]

Not much. Upper Current doesn't have a whole lot of shifting gravel. New trees will be in the water creating new holes, some minor shifting around. Just down from Baptist there was a pretty good mudslide that happened a year or so ago on the hill where the long run from Baptist begins to tail out. And it would be interesting to see if the big log jammed channel by the bluff on the horseshoe got cleaned out or just stacked higher. Thats one spot where the channel might have swung back to that side, and I think that would be a good thing.

[Nortrad]

Not much. Upper Current doesn't have a whole lot of shifting gravel. New trees will be in the water creating new holes, some minor shifting around. Just down from Baptist there was a pretty good mudslide that happened a year or so ago on the hill where the long run from Baptist begins to tail out. And it would be interesting to see if the big log jammed channel by the bluff on the horseshoe got cleaned out or just stacked higher. Thats one spot where the channel might have swung back to that side, and I think that would be a good thing.

Interesting, the major log structures are going to get it for sure. We can hope and wait. We'll see how it finally lowers later this week.

[joeD]

The trout will be in the same area, same spot really, whether the water rises 2 inches or 20 feet. The speed of the river at the bottom remains relatively unchanged, as compared to the surface speed. That's why fish (and other sub-surface fauna) don't get flushed out during flood events. Don't believe me? Just ask the brown trout living in the White River just below the Bull Shoals Dam in Bull Shoals State Park. They get flooded on an almost weekly basis sometimes, while enduring periods of very low flow. Yet, they are still right there. For us.

[3wt]

In the few sandy/gravelly spots it usually shifts around. But it is mostly chunky rock so it's pretty stable. I'm usually more concerned when there's several years without a good washout. It tends to let things fill in too much. I have notices that in the immediate year after a big washout that some of the insect populations is slow. I think it's because the vegetation that the nymphs cling to gets washed out. But should right itself in a season or so.

Rivers should be dymanic. When they used to dredge a lot at Montauk, there were always the old reliable holes. These days the river has a greater variety of waters to fish, and you may not always have your "spot," there will be many other spots to discover. It really does get boring if you run out of fish to discover.

[Idylwilde]

Four days of high water and still up this morning. I would think the river bed will have some changes. Most of the floods at montauk are short one day events but this is a almost week. A lot of sand moveing around. This is a report this morning from Montauk. Report Link

[Nortrad]

That's my point in the opening post, a great hole below Tan Vat literally filled in with gravel from the floods, from 5-6' down to 3' if that. I agree that a river should change and will change, makes it a great challenge to find the new places where the fish hold.

[jah]

That's my point in the opening post, a great hole below Tan Vat literally filled in with gravel from the floods, from 5-6' down to 3' if that. I agree that a river should change and will change, makes it a great challenge to find the new places where the fish hold.

Nortrad-

Are you referring to the hole below the 'island' a few hundred yards downstream from tan vat access? the one where you could fish against the grassy bank whilst standing in the middle of the river, with another deep hole behind you? if this is the one you're referring to, I too recently noticed how shallow it had become. weird...i think i mentioned it in one of my fishing reports. can't remember, but this river does change a lot. I like it...keeps it interesting.

Jim

[Nortrad]

That's the one, fast riffle/deadfall, slight turn then deep with narrow, short bank, nice and deep, undercut, my avatar fish came from there, much shallower now, filled in with gravel. That's OK, a river changes, and I found a nice place farther down from there. I'd like to see more structure from logs, but who knows? Hopefully the rest of the week won't add too much to the total rainfall.

[jah]

That's the one, fast riffle/deadfall, slight turn then deep with narrow, short bank, nice and deep, undercut, my avatar fish came from there, much shallower now, filled in with gravel. That's OK, a river changes, and I found a nice place farther down from there. I'd like to see more structure from logs, but who knows? Hopefully the rest of the week won't add too much to the total rainfall.

i think I caught the same fish...right against the bank. also saw a PIG in there last time i was there, and that was after it became shallow. still a good hole, though not as nice as before....