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I rented this book a few years ago from the library in STL. They don't have it in the Greene county library system, but I am interested in buying it. I remember when I had it that there was a region of the state it did not cover. For some reason, I think it was SW Missouri? I'm really just getting it for the Springfield area so does it cover that?

"Of all the liars among mankind, the fisherman is the most trustworthy."

"There's a fine line between fishing and standing on the shore like an idiot."

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Springfield isn't quite SWMO as far as smallmouth fishing. In my opinion, Springfield to Lebanon on 44 is smallmouth central. SWMO would include the Spring watershed, the White River tributaries and the Elk watershed. I haven't read the book, but I would assume that the James and Finley are in it.

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They do have it in the Greene County library system. There's a copy at the Library Center on South Campbell near the Sam's Club. It's in the Local History section. I've looked it over there before.

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I rented this book a few years ago from the library in STL. They don't have it in the Greene county library system, but I am interested in buying it. I remember when I had it that there was a region of the state it did not cover. For some reason, I think it was SW Missouri? I'm really just getting it for the Springfield area so does it cover that?

I have a copy that I almost never refer to anymore; if you really act nice, I'll give it to you. There might be a couple of pages missing regarding the St. Francois, a friend borrowed it to copy the pages and I'm not sure he put them all back.

ps. It's signed by the man himself!

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He stops at the James, I believe it is without looking. He does include the tributary's. It is primarily for waders who are looking for accesses.

Today's release is tomorrows gift to another fisherman.

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He stops at the James, I believe it is without looking. He does include the tributary's. It is primarily for waders who are looking for accesses.

That's me!

"Of all the liars among mankind, the fisherman is the most trustworthy."

"There's a fine line between fishing and standing on the shore like an idiot."

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It does not include any river or tributary that runs into the Osage above Bagnell Dam, which means it does not include the Niangua, Pomme de Terre, or Sac. The only exception to this is the Grand Glaize and tributaries. And it does not include any of the Grand/Neosho tributaries in SW MO, including the Spring, Shoal, and Elk river systems.

I'm also kinda dismayed at how quickly things have changed since Chuck wrote the book. There are quite a few places on smaller streams that he said were very useable accesses that are now heavily posted against trespass. I noticed this when doing some exploring on the upper portions of Finley Creek and down on Bull and Swan Creek.

Note also that his mileage figures are pretty far off those given in the MDC float book. According to Chuck, most sections of stream are longer than what the float book says.

It's still a great resource, but don't totally depend upon it.

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It does not include any river or tributary that runs into the Osage above Bagnell Dam, which means it does not include the Niangua, Pomme de Terre, or Sac. The only exception to this is the Grand Glaize and tributaries. And it does not include any of the Grand/Neosho tributaries in SW MO, including the Spring, Shoal, and Elk river systems.

I'm also kinda dismayed at how quickly things have changed since Chuck wrote the book. There are quite a few places on smaller streams that he said were very useable accesses that are now heavily posted against trespass. I noticed this when doing some exploring on the upper portions of Finley Creek and down on Bull and Swan Creek.

Note also that his mileage figures are pretty far off those given in the MDC float book. According to Chuck, most sections of stream are longer than what the float book says.

It's still a great resource, but don't totally depend upon it.

I've never seen a copy of this book, but now I have to get it and compare.

We have lost some access over here due to the actions of some slobs - however, I've been able to get access in several places that are posted by one magic trick - going and asking nicely. It's amazing how often that works.

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Missouri Smallmouth Alliance was offering a free copy with a years dues. I can't seem to get on the site to confirm.

Al do you know if they are still making the offer?

Today's release is tomorrows gift to another fisherman.

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Missouri Smallmouth Alliance was offering a free copy with a years dues. I can't seem to get on the site to confirm.

Al do you know if they are still making the offer?

I think the site is down as I've been trying to get on for a couple days. Honestly I think I would like to join if anyone has info about it.

"Of all the liars among mankind, the fisherman is the most trustworthy."

"There's a fine line between fishing and standing on the shore like an idiot."

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