New Fishing In Alaska

[FishinCricket]

But if we conceded that, Tim, then what's left to be pissed off about? We need something, after all we're only human..

(my straw man is a pyro, be careful!!)

[Tim Smith]

But if we conceded that, Tim, then what's left to be pissed off about? We need something, after all we're only human..

(my straw man is a pyro, be careful!!)

Seems like a pyromaniac straw man won't be around long enough to worry about.

Personally, I missed about half a dozen strikes when I went fishing last week....that's what I'm pissed about at the moment (fly-fishing newb trying to make the switch from spinning gear and needs MUCH more experience nymphing). That seems a much more productive thing to be pissed about than climate change...which can only be addressed by a long, hard slog that will last well beyond any of our lifetimes.

[Outside Bend]

It is, I guess, fairly cool that a stream can go from nonexistence to supporting salmon and char in less than one human lifetime. But it may also be the silver lining to a monstrous black cloud- it'll be interesting to see what else changes in the next forty years.

[dennis boatman]

I'm not sure I have 40 years left in me...

[Tim Smith]

I'm not sure I have 40 years left in me...

But your kids probably do.

[Tim Smith]

So are we all ready to deal with the real world now?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45095223?

[weed less]

Tim thanks I totally screwed that last post up.

I also believe that our pollute is helping speed up the warming.

But I do not have clean hands, I put in more insulation-turn down the heat-turn up the air, but I still drive a large vehicle.

thanks for the Richard Muller article

[Tim Smith]

Tim thanks I totally screwed that last post up.

I also believe that our pollute is helping speed up the warming.

But I do not have clean hands, I put in more insulation-turn down the heat-turn up the air, but I still drive a large vehicle.

thanks for the Richard Muller article

Thanks weedless and you're welcome. Glad to know we're on the same page.

I had a Silverado until a couple of years ago and have downsized to a crossover that gets about 30mpg. Can't wait until they start selling the Central American small diesel trucks here that also get just under 30. The Toyota Hilux is a beast and I want it for the mountains here in Colorado. Ford has a good one too.

On the other hand, my ex-wife's house still needs more insulation and I should have helped her with that long ago. Maybe next month.

Nobody has it all together. We do what we can as we're able.

[Al Agnew]

To assume that because past warming cycles came about through "natural" causes, the current warming cycle is due to natural causes, is no different than assuming that the dead body with a bullet hole in the head died of natural causes because people die of natural causes all the time. Just sayin'.

The thing that interests me about this story is, how did the salmon decide to run up that new creek? Aren't salmon imprinted with their stream of birth, and always return to it? Hmm. Maybe not. Or maybe there was a tiny bit of that stream down at the lower end that had a tiny bit of salmon spawning habitat and produced a few salmon each year.

[Tim Smith]

The thing that interests me about this story is, how did the salmon decide to run up that new creek? Aren't salmon imprinted with their stream of birth, and always return to it? Hmm. Maybe not. Or maybe there was a tiny bit of that stream down at the lower end that had a tiny bit of salmon spawning habitat and produced a few salmon each year.

Maybe there was a bit of stream before...

..but there are always a few strays here and there. The tendancy to stray apparently varies between species. There is less fidelity among species that range closer in the ocean to their spawning grounds. Less straying occurs among the species that only disperse longer distances offshore (I think...hope I remember that right). After a few years the salmon that wander in by mistake can establish their own runs.