Chris Barclay Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 Paul Dallas recently spoke at a symposium of renowned trout biologists from fisheries around the world and he was the keynote speaker. His extensive research study conducted over 20 years of fishing the most fragile trout ecosystems in Missouri and concluded that we anglers are not aware of the many benefits a good gravel or sand scrub has to the epidermus of a trout, and particularly as it relates to restoring the mineral content and restoring the proper pH of the protective "slime" coating. Further research indicated that not only did trout that were caught and handled in this way, when returned to the water, actually thrive and grew larger than their more delicately handled counterparts, but they also suffered from lower depression rates and were more likely to be contributing members of their community. Tissue samples also revealed the benefits of camera flashbulbs and strengthened retinal and synapsal response to the brain, resulting in increased biomorphology and less dependence on corrective eyewear. Additionally, trout caught with large, dull treble hooks dangling from jerkbaits benefited from greatly improved dental/oral health and a 17% increase in the enamel thickness as well as reduced plaque and tartar buildup on the gumline. Chris St. Louis, MOcbarclayflyrods.combreambum.blogspot.com
Members WaderFarts Posted January 13, 2012 Members Posted January 13, 2012 Your welcome oaf members! That is how you highjack an otherwise boring thread of a snagger destined for only a few replies and take it to the three page mark...mission accomplished
Chris Barclay Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 WF, have you ever fished the LP? It's a special place that's worth the 3 page mark for sure. Chris St. Louis, MOcbarclayflyrods.combreambum.blogspot.com
drew03cmc Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 I'm not alarmed at the trout in your photos or your ironic concern for their health, however your habit of laying small trout out on the gravel while you snap poor quality photos is an irritating trend afflicting far to many anglers on this forum...what do you do with these crummy photos anyway? Really? You are this butthurt over a non-native species in Missouri waters? If this is the general tone of your input, you can be excused. 9 posts total as of now and you have spent 8 of them bit*hing about someone else's pictures. Don't you have anything better to do with yourself on the internet? Go look at some pron or something, maybe it will help you relieve some stress that appears to be pent up inside of the gigantic ego you seem to have amassed throughout your life. Laker67, you are excused. I did not say there was anything illegal about throwing trout on the rocks ( or sand in the case of some recently posted photos of brown trout on the current river thread) to take poor quality photos of. Funny you should mention legality issues, when upon closer inspection one might notice the soft hackle fly imbeded in the side of trout picture number two. While accepted as a long standing traditionally respected method of angling by taney outlet pounders and park rats, snagging is frowned upon by anyone with the slightest bit of self respect. Props to you mdrstl, most people wouldn't post incriminating photos of themselves on the internet, blatant disrespect for trout and ethical angling...don't fear though rps and the rest of the snagger crew will have your back Legal acts, are legal acts. You will not see anyone arrested for taking a picture of a fish. Snagging is frowned upon? How do you catch spoonbill then so I can learn from the "master". X1000 How many yards for unsportsmanlike conduct on the original poster for his pictured infractions, ref? Last I heard stupidity still isn't punishable by law. You want to enact a yardage penalty for laying a fish on the darn rocks? I guess if everyone was the gentleman fly fisherman that you seem to fancy yourself as being, the world would be a better place, for man and for fish. Maybe you should take your boy "WaderFarts" with you and teach him how real Ozarks fishermen handle themselves. I am sure he will come back enlightened with information and have an image emblazoned on the soft tissue of his ocular nerve. Never said i was concerned about the feelings of fish, just the quality of our fisheries, especially those which support sustained wild reproduction. I am bothered by snaggers and people with little or no common sense. You and laker67 obviously don't get it, but I undetstand because higher level thinking is something out of your biological grasp. Your breed belongs in the powerbait section of the parks, why are you defending blatant ignorance. I realize my statements are far from the eloquent and tactful thoughts of 2sheds, however they weren't suppossed to be. I was speaking down to the level of the snagging, throwing trout on the shore for glory shots crowd that is so prolific on our streams. Hookless, what do I sound like some kind of hippy just cause I burn it down. Lot of clowns on this site and our streams...in the slightly altered words of Ron Burgundy, "stay class missouri." Jesus, Laker has caught more trophy trout, with photographic evidence, than you could dream of catching. Chief is one of the best smallmouth fishermen I have ever met, and you, want to come on here to pick a fight and start some schite with everyone. Get over yourself and contribute something worthwhile to a conversation or go the hell away. Edit: Perhaps I did take a few liberties with some things. My bad. Just tired of the same old holier than thou act with regards to trout and the handling of such. I will recant my statements regarding WaderFarts, even as much as I disagree with his sentiment here. Jason, you took that as an insult, which it wasn't. It was rather an offhanded way of acknowledging your status as a fly fisherman, and how you like to see the sport. It isn't a bad thing and the world could use some more ecologically concerned sportsmen. Believe it or not, you are not a person I ever had beef with, why start now? I just don't understand how people can use a cotton net and then bitch about laying a fish on the rocks. The cotton absorbs much more slime than a hard rock does, correct? Andy
Trout Commander Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 What's with the personal attacks Drewsky? Still having those jealousy and anger issues? I have spent most of my money on fly fishing and beer. The rest I just wasted. The latest Trout Commander blog post: Niangua River Six Pack
drew03cmc Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 I edited my above post to be more correct, but OB, you and I agree on something. Andy
Members mdrstl Posted January 14, 2012 Author Members Posted January 14, 2012 It’s interesting how my post degraded. I find it ironic as I learned about the Little Piney from this forum and posts from the knowledgeable fly fisherman have helped my fishing and led me to quite waters. Posts from the educated and informed reiterated the importance of treading lightly, not infringing on other’s water, fishing barbless and picking up trash others have left behind. I’m not going to address all the misconceptions from the ignorant. It is a good point that the time spent taking pictures or the placement of fish during this activity could harm them. I’ve enjoyed pictures posted by others and look forward to seeing more in the future from those of you willing to wake the clowns.
Members Goggle-Eye Posted January 14, 2012 Members Posted January 14, 2012 It’s interesting how my post degraded. I find it ironic as I learned about the Little Piney from this forum and posts from the knowledgeable fly fisherman have helped my fishing and led me to quite waters. Posts from the educated and informed reiterated the importance of treading lightly, not infringing on other’s water, fishing barbless and picking up trash others have left behind. I’m not going to address all the misconceptions from the ignorant. It is a good point that the time spent taking pictures or the placement of fish during this activity could harm them. I’ve enjoyed pictures posted by others and look forward to seeing more in the future from those of you willing to wake the clowns. WOW! Talk about a bitchslap to the face! I would bet that those that just defended you would find it ironic that you just turned your back on them. Maybe you and VaginaFarts would make a good couple.
Thom Posted January 14, 2012 Posted January 14, 2012 It’s interesting how my post degraded. I find it ironic as I learned about the Little Piney from this forum and posts from the knowledgeable fly fisherman have helped my fishing and led me to quite waters. Posts from the educated and informed reiterated the importance of treading lightly, not infringing on other’s water, fishing barbless and picking up trash others have left behind. I’m not going to address all the misconceptions from the ignorant. It is a good point that the time spent taking pictures or the placement of fish during this activity could harm them. I’ve enjoyed pictures posted by others and look forward to seeing more in the future from those of you willing to wake the clowns. MDRSTL: Please don't take all of the posts personal. Their are a few members that get real picky and critical at times. The majority of the members here enjoy looking at the pics. I wonder just how long those deformed fish would survive anyway. I was an interesting post and informative pic segment. I think the best part of this forum is the vast numbers of knowledgable members with diverse opinions. Keep posting and ignore the ignorant. Don't take literally all of the comments since there lots of us with dry humor and satire inserted in our posts that is not meant to be critical but to just add to the flavor of the forum. For the most part the large percentage of the posters are well meaning sportsman and if you have the pleasure of meeting them in person you will find are just great folks. Keep on posting and don't let the sarcasam and critics get to you. Your opinions are just a valuable as theirs and absence from this forum would be a loss for us. Our great Admin team will red button sometimes but they allow lots of leeway which is great and do little censorship. Thom Harvengt
ozark trout fisher Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 It’s interesting how my post degraded. I find it ironic as I learned about the Little Piney from this forum and posts from the knowledgeable fly fisherman have helped my fishing and led me to quite waters. Posts from the educated and informed reiterated the importance of treading lightly, not infringing on other’s water, fishing barbless and picking up trash others have left behind. I’m not going to address all the misconceptions from the ignorant. It is a good point that the time spent taking pictures or the placement of fish during this activity could harm them. I’ve enjoyed pictures posted by others and look forward to seeing more in the future from those of you willing to wake the clowns. I agree with Thom, don't I wouldn't pay too much mind to the people who are getting all upset about this. Small potatoes. I'd probably take more fish pictures if I could just start catching a few that are big enough to be worth the trouble:)
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