Legal Question: Glass At Camp Site

[Mark]

For Brian or anyone else,

My Eleven Point comrade Snap and I have had this discussion several times and would like to know if anyone is absolutely positively 100% sure of the law. Weboth agree Brian would know the law and will abide by his ruling. We have a nice cold Moose Drool draft wagered.

I say no glass containers are allowed under any circumstances on the Eleven Point River.

My equally confident friend Snap says that the no glass containers only applies to canoes, kayaks, and tubes - vessels that are in danger of being turned over in the river. He has a riverboat w/jet prop and says that he is perfectly legal to have glass in his riverboat, and we are perfectly legal having glass containers at our campsite as long as the glass was hauled in by riverboat.

Please, no ethical, environmental lectures - we are 100% careful conservation minded adults and leave no trace behind campers. Just like to know that we cannot be fined for our favorite libations carried in a bottle to our campsite on a gravel bar if carried by riverboat.

Thanks, Mark

[scotth]

I don't know about he glass, but I know you can get Moose Drool in cans. Been my favorite beer for last 10 years.

scott

[Brian Sloss]

The law says on or near the river, I have never seen anything that makes an exemption for the kind of watercraft you are using. My understanding is by near the river they mean about 100ft. You can always double check me by contacting the USDA forest service in Doniphin if you want.

[Greasy B]

I think Arkansas container laws are watercraft specific.

[awhuber]

For Brian or anyone else,

My Eleven Point comrade Snap and I have had this discussion several times and would like to know if anyone is absolutely positively 100% sure of the law. Weboth agree Brian would know the law and will abide by his ruling. We have a nice cold Moose Drool draft wagered.

I say no glass containers are allowed under any circumstances on the Eleven Point River.

My equally confident friend Snap says that the no glass containers only applies to canoes, kayaks, and tubes - vessels that are in danger of being turned over in the river. He has a riverboat w/jet prop and says that he is perfectly legal to have glass in his riverboat, and we are perfectly legal having glass containers at our campsite as long as the glass was hauled in by riverboat.

Please, no ethical, environmental lectures - we are 100% careful conservation minded adults and leave no trace behind campers. Just like to know that we cannot be fined for our favorite libations carried in a bottle to our campsite on a gravel bar if carried by riverboat.

Thanks, Mark

Maybe the MFU boys want to wiegh in on this. After viewing their vids and pics, they look like experts on glass on the rivers.

[Flysmallie]

Maybe the MFU boys want to wiegh in on this. After viewing their vids and pics, they look like experts on glass on the rivers.

We don't take glass on the rivers. Maybe you need to watch closer, the only glass you will see is in the cabin. Go back to cleaning those browns and quit worrying about us.

[Wayne SW/MO]

I don't know about expert, but the 2009 law as I read it banned glass containers on rivers. It also banned polystrene coolers and some other actions.

[ozarkgunner]

Vessels on navigable waterways, restrictions on transporting of foodstuffs and beverages--violation, penalty.

306.325. 1. As used in this section, the following terms mean:

(1) "Navigable waterway", any navigable river, lake, or other body of water located wholly or partly within this state and used by any vessel;

(2) "Vessel", any canoe, kayak, or other watercraft which is easily susceptible to swamping, tipping, or rolling, but does not include any houseboat, party barge, runabout, ski boat, bass boat, excursion gambling boat as defined in section 313.800, or similar watercraft not easily susceptible to swamping, tipping, or rolling.

2. Any person entering, traveling upon, or otherwise using navigable or nonnavigable waterways by vessel or innertube and transporting foodstuffs or beverages shall:

(1) Use a cooler, icebox, or similar nonglass container, and shall not use, other than containers for substances prescribed by a licensed physician, any glass container for beverages on a vessel within the banks of navigable waterways;

(2) Use a cooler, icebox, or similar nonglass container sealed in a way which prevents the contents from spilling into the water;

(3) Carry and affix to the vessel a container or bag suitable for containing refuse, waste, and trash materials and which is capable of being securely closed;

(4) Transport all refuse, waste, and trash materials to a place in which such materials may be safely and lawfully disposed; and

(5) Shall safely secure any glass containers to protect them from breakage or discharge into any stream.

3. Any person who violates the provisions of this section is guilty of a class C misdemeanor.

[Mark]

My guess would be that Brian knows the law as well as anyone. Snappy, prove us wrong or buck up on a Moose Drool.

[awhuber]

We don't take glass on the rivers. Maybe you need to watch closer, the only glass you will see is in the cabin. Go back to cleaning those browns and quit worrying about us.

Then you may want to take down the vid you posted. The thumb nail had a bottle of schafleysin it and other shot of some whiskey on a gravel bar, just sayin....lol