Trout Commander Posted February 24, 2012 Posted February 24, 2012 I like #5. Wonder what some rubber legs would do to that beast? If you are bass fishing the results would be similar to putting bacon on your favorite food. I don't have the experience with carp to know how they like rubber legs though. I have spent most of my money on fly fishing and beer. The rest I just wasted. The latest Trout Commander blog post: Niangua River Six Pack
Outside Bend Posted February 24, 2012 Posted February 24, 2012 yes, I use dubbing loop for everything accept the little ball i tie in at the back to help split the claws and Thanks for the feedback everyone. Everywhere I look it MFU this MFU that...Big up Unit! Wrench, I'll have to work on my vocab...I also say Mizzureee vs Mizzuruhh, its just another case of "you say tomato I say tamato" Crawdad Crawdad Crawdad ...Crawdad... it'l take some practice Pretty slick. Do the hen hackle job in olive, and you should have everything covered! <{{{><
esox niger Posted February 24, 2012 Author Posted February 24, 2012 Yeah that's another one, but all my grandparents, most of my great grandparents and some of my great great grandparents were born here and I ain't never heard anything in my family but Mizzuruhh. :lol: I have some orange squirrel I want to try. Have you ever thrown anything orange at carp? If # 3 is orange yes....brown orange should be just fine...straight up orange, havent tried. I have a bad habbit of sticking to what works #3 deffinitely works for me. A simple black fly (Black Ops) also works pretty darn well too, when carp are in the area and even when they aren't I'm likely to have this fly on(it takes every species in "my creek" 8species in one day)...I'll tie a couple up in straight pumpkin orange for this season and see what happens. I was just thinking...maybe use a marker to mottle the orange a bit...should be just fine. leave the claw tips orange though. They will really flash when you strip the fly, looks good that way. you've prabably seen the "Black Ops" before but here it is anyway Black Ops Looks kinda like a dud but shoot darn thing works. I'd post the image right here but can't find one on my computer I have heard that orange or red caddis pupa's are good for the rough fish, havent tried yet. Too many flies to test and its hard to test things when I already know whats good to throw. I've got good reason to start test some more things this year though. Missouriflies.com Online Carp Fly Store
fishinwrench Posted February 25, 2012 Posted February 25, 2012 I concocted this creature last Summer when I was attempting to catch some carp, just Ultra chenille on a 1/80 jighead. I never got one to take it....but I'm not too sure I wasn't just fishing to slumbering buffalo. I'll try it again this year now that I'm a tad bit smarter.
esox niger Posted February 25, 2012 Author Posted February 25, 2012 I like it! Looks like it should work. Im thinking double the tail a little marabou plume...probably just a character flaw on my part . Missouriflies.com Online Carp Fly Store
fishinwrench Posted February 25, 2012 Posted February 25, 2012 I like it! Looks like it should work. Im thinking double the tail a little marabou plume...probably just a character flaw on my part . You just can't help yourself, can ya? Just gotta make it look like a crawdad ! Black ops only has a "single tail". (I like him by the way)
Wayne SW/MO Posted February 25, 2012 Posted February 25, 2012 I have a couple of squirrel tails dyed orange that are natural, not bleached, and of course somewhat mottled. I used it for the claws on my dud crawfish and they were the only thing that I liked. I have a question, if you see carp in a pod and moving have you been able to interest them, or do they need to be tailing? Today's release is tomorrows gift to another fisherman.
esox niger Posted February 25, 2012 Author Posted February 25, 2012 You just can't help yourself, can ya? Just gotta make it look like a crawdad ! Black ops only has a "single tail". (I like him by the way) Thats funny cus as I was just hitting this page again, I was thinking to myself...the black ops doesn't have any frills (its pretty darn plain) I have a couple of squirrel tails dyed orange that are natural, not bleached, and of course somewhat mottled. I used it for the claws on my dud crawfish and they were the only thing that I liked. I have a question, if you see carp in a pod and moving have you been able to interest them, or do they need to be tailing? They don't need to be tailing, though an actively feeding fish is usually best, sometimes I catch ones that are just slowly moving mid column or haning by a particular brush pile, sometimes they ignore me too. I haven't ecountered pods of moving Carp, per say, too often. Actively feeding fish or fish on the war path are the ones to hit. I just googled Rockaway Beach, looks like there should be some real nice spots where you live, what river is that? some of those oxbows,creeks, backwaters look prime, don't know if you kayak fish any, or if you can get a boat in there with a trolling motor, but looks like theres some prime water in the area. Oh, your on Taneycomo...shoot son, Sounds cold! hmm Bull Creek looks pretty good and any of those backwaters if they get to warm up. A very different fishery than what im used to.... Missouriflies.com Online Carp Fly Store
Wayne SW/MO Posted February 25, 2012 Posted February 25, 2012 I see carp sometimes below the Powersite dam and I've caught quite a few on spinning gear there. Seeing them is a different story, but maybe i'm not looking hard enough. I did catch 2 of my 3 fly carp there, but I happened on a huge number feding on top. I never determined what they were sipping, but I had a rod with a Griffiths Gnat on it and they took it. the downside was that they were only 2 or 3 pounders. I have a kayak, 2 in fact, and a jon. I need to see if any carp are still around in Taneycomo, the bow hunters hit them hard at one time. I want to try some with Wrench later this summer also. I see you have pontoons on your SOT. Are they for stability or to stay level with the motor? What size battery do you use and where to you place it? Today's release is tomorrows gift to another fisherman.
esox niger Posted February 25, 2012 Author Posted February 25, 2012 The pontoons are for stability and they just so happen to be a good place to put the motor. I also cut a piece of plywood to go in the cuped out sit spot which gives me a small platform to comfortably stand on. The battern is a Bass Pro Power Series, AGM Deepcycle 140 part #XPSA24 , motor: Minn Kota endura 30lb thrust i think,,the cheap one I used to place the battery at the front of the rear storage spot in a case and use it as a seat, but with the wind it gets might tough to keep the yak from spinning with all the weight in one spot, so i've rewired with some 12$ walmart humper cables and put the batter in the front storage opening, battery effectively rest on the hull of the yak. I don't know how deep or swift it gets below the powersite dam but I'd think if you can get a little crayfish, I mean CRAWDAD, or even a little flesh fly in white through brown, (anything really) on bottom and drifit it down youd probably get takes, drifting on bottom in deep water is easier said than done usually. its a tough one. I just do the warm creeks that feed into the Missouri for the most part, almost entirely sight fishing. I definitely wish you guys the best of luck I still think that the hardest part is finding a spot where the fish feed, you can see them, and you can get casts at them...once you've found that combination...its higly likely they will be there time and time again throughout the year. You wouldn't believe the time I put in up front to actually start catching these fish...it was substantial. The yak helped a great deal giving me access, ability to cover lots of water, and stealth. And as a final thought, I could be wrong here for sure...personaly I would try and find places where i can see the fish feeding either directly or indirectly...better to be directly because knowing exactly where the fishes head is makes all the difference in the world, unless its a giant pod. If I was you, I'd still try and find warmer feeder creeks and backwaters that are a bit smaller and shallower even wadeable, but its really hard for me to give that advice not knowing the area at all. Missouriflies.com Online Carp Fly Store
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