Chief Grey Bear Posted March 21, 2012 Posted March 21, 2012 Too small to float???? Looks extremely floatable to me. Chief Grey Bear Living is dangerous to your health Owner Ozark Fishing Expeditions Co-Owner, Chief Executive Product Development Team Jerm Werm Executive Pro Staff Team Agnew Executive Pro Staff Paul Dallas Productions Executive Pro Staff Team Heddon, River Division Chief Primary Consultant Missouri Smallmouth Alliance Executive Vice President Ronnie Moore Outdoors
Mitch f Posted March 21, 2012 Author Posted March 21, 2012 Very nice fish Ron, I will use 6 lb on an ultra clear stream like the one in the pictures. I think because you are an expert class fisherman you know what the limits of your equipment are. Good job! "Honor is a man's gift to himself" Rob Roy McGregor
MOsmallies Posted March 21, 2012 Posted March 21, 2012 Great looking fish Ron! Mitch - I also use P-Line CX Premium exclusively and would definitely recommend it. I've bought 3000 yd spools of it in 8, 10, and 15 lb test. I use the moss green color in 8 lb for spinning gear (6 lb in small, clear water) and 8 or 10 lb for my baitcasters. When I'm at LOZ i'll usually spool up with 12 and 15 lb for all my baitcasters and leave the 8 lb on my spinning equipment. It has great knot strength, pretty good abrasion resistance, its limp and easy to handle on both spinning and casting equipment, and like others said it has a thinner diameter than similar lines of the same size. Give it a shot and if you don't like it I'll be glad to take it off your hands Paul MOsmallies
Members creekin bassnerd Posted March 21, 2012 Members Posted March 21, 2012 Maybe I should be a guide, I know how to catch smallmouth in a river, I can also read water so I could operate the boat. All I need now are a bunch of rich folks that don't know a deep hole when they see one.
Greasy B Posted March 21, 2012 Posted March 21, 2012 Maybe I should be a guide, I know how to catch smallmouth in a river, I can also read water so I could operate the boat. All I need now are a bunch of rich folks that don't know a deep hole when they see one. Don't do it, it's a miserable existence. His father touches the Claw in spite of Kevin's warnings and breaks two legs just as a thunderstorm tears the house apart. Kevin runs away with the Claw. He becomes captain of the Greasy Bastard, a small ship carrying rubber goods between England and Burma. Michael Palin, Terry Jones, 1974
Wayne SW/MO Posted March 21, 2012 Posted March 21, 2012 It takes a good baitcasting reel to handle P-Line Premium. It's admittedly a little soft for baitcasters, especially in the 8#-12# range, but a good baitcasting reel will overcome it. Today's release is tomorrows gift to another fisherman.
Chief Grey Bear Posted March 21, 2012 Posted March 21, 2012 Experience is really what I'm selling on guided trips, not fish. That ain't all you are selling. Chief Grey Bear Living is dangerous to your health Owner Ozark Fishing Expeditions Co-Owner, Chief Executive Product Development Team Jerm Werm Executive Pro Staff Team Agnew Executive Pro Staff Paul Dallas Productions Executive Pro Staff Team Heddon, River Division Chief Primary Consultant Missouri Smallmouth Alliance Executive Vice President Ronnie Moore Outdoors
drew03cmc Posted March 23, 2012 Posted March 23, 2012 I guess it is a thing I've evolved to from fishing about 200 to 300 days a year for decades, but I tend to use lighter lines and smaller lures than most. When you match 6-pound-test line with the proper rod and a properly set drag system, you can handle big smallmouths in streams. Here are just a few of the nice bass I've landed during the past couple of days (3-19 and 3-20) on 6-pound Sufix line and 1/16th-ounce lures. These fish were all caught on streams too small to float. The underwater shot is of the biggest, but I've landed well over a dozen close to 3 pounds during just the past couple of days. I think the lighter and thinner lines provide an advantage in clear streams, which results in more stikes, even from big smallmouths, and the lighter lines increases the presentation and action of smaller lures, which results in more strikes, even from big smallmouths. It may also be that experience has taught me just how much pressure I can exert upon light line, which is considerable. And the experience may have taught me a lot of subtle, but important, things about presentations. I also believe the extra stretch of mono better absorbs those sudden surges. I very rarely break off a fish, and when I do, it is my fault for not checking the line for abraisions or knot damage. I change line about once a month. The vast majority of fish I've lost have not been because the line was too light, but because I put too much pressure on them, causing the hook to tear loose. I often lose little bass because I tend to horse them in, but very rarely a big one. How is this stream NOT floatable? That creek looks 40 feet wide, and if it is over 6" deep, two guys can float a 16' Old Town down it. I don't see your issue there. Regarding your belief of line stretch absorbing surges from fish, but that is what the tip section of rods (and the drag on your reel) are for. The butt is for putting pressure on a fish, the tip protects the line. I'd think a guide of your stripes, albeit self applied, would know that you don't count on line stretch to protect your line. Sorry, I can't buy that you are this almighty guide who has done everything, yet you make remarks like this. Andy
Mitch f Posted March 23, 2012 Author Posted March 23, 2012 Honestly Drew, what are you trying to accomplish by posting this? "Honor is a man's gift to himself" Rob Roy McGregor
Wayne SW/MO Posted March 23, 2012 Posted March 23, 2012 I have to agree that stretch plays a part in the equation. It can be the line saver when sudden changes occur. Today's release is tomorrows gift to another fisherman.
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