Guest Posted April 13, 2012 Posted April 13, 2012 I have tried the newer PP. I don't like it, I seem to get less casting distance compared to the old version. I haven't tried the nanofil yet, but I will try it when the price comes down. I use PP for the same reason MOsmallies stated, sometimes those darn asian carp get in the way and I would lose way too many cranks. Plus, it will straighten hooks in snags and is the best trolling line I have ever found. Fireline tracer braid is good for trolling too.
LarrySTL Posted April 14, 2012 Posted April 14, 2012 A couple questions if I may for the spinning reel folks using braid. Are you using yellow (or one of the very visible colors) which I am sure helps you see it, or a dark color so the fish cant see it as well ? For leaders, fluoro ( better feel, and it sinking might help with bottom baits but is it a handicap with surface lures?) mono ( we probably all know its pluses and minuses) or one of the poly lines .....and why ? What knot for the braid-to-leader knot ? Thanks Larry http://intervenehere.com
Stoneroller Posted April 14, 2012 Posted April 14, 2012 uni to uni knot for the braid to fluoro/mono leader. 4 wraps with the braid, 6 with the fluoro/mono. the modified albright is supposed to be a really good one too. I typically use the green braid, mostly because that's the available color. I'm now trying the 'ghost' color of the 832. it looks exactly like crystal fusion firewire in color. the nanofil is a white color. I don't think the fish care about line color. they can feel the line through their lateral line anyway, especially when snapping the line like with a jerkbait, jig, topwater etc. I use a fluoro leader for anything under the surface and occasionally a mono leader for WTD type lures. Fish On Kayak Adventures, LLC. Supreme Commander 'The Dude' of Kayak fishing www.fishonkayakadventures.com fishonkayakadventures@yahoo.com
Mitch f Posted April 14, 2012 Posted April 14, 2012 I went thru a stage about 5 years ago when I did the uni to uni on braid to fluoro. It functioned great in every respect except one. When you break off it takes too long to re-tie everything and I ended up waisting too much time. I use straight fluoro hybrid now. The newer hybrid lines have low stretch and high sensitivity and I don't see a big need for braid in river fishing. I know many smart people have told me that fish don't mind the braid.... Just like MOsmallies said, I feel more confident without it. "Honor is a man's gift to himself" Rob Roy McGregor
Guest Posted April 14, 2012 Posted April 14, 2012 I went thru a stage about 5 years ago when I did the uni to uni on braid to fluoro. It functioned great in every respect except one. When you break off it takes too long to re-tie everything and I ended up waisting too much time. I use straight fluoro hybrid now. The newer hybrid lines have low stretch and high sensitivity and I don't see a big need for braid in river fishing. I know many smart people have told me that fish don't mind the braid....I just feel more confident without it. How is it with line twist on spinning reels? When I throw mono/hybrids on spinning tackle I get terrible line twist.
Mitch f Posted April 14, 2012 Posted April 14, 2012 How is it with line twist on spinning reels? When I throw mono/hybrids on spinning tackle I get terrible line twist. Well, you usually want the line to come off the spool counter clockwise which usually means label up. But even by doing it that way you are still going to get some twist. Just let 100 yards or so drift down current without a lure tied on and slowly reel it back in: this definitely helps. I also spray some of the Kevin Van Dam reel and line conditioner on it, makes it last longer and cast better too. A guide taught me a good trick many years ago to keep from getting blow ups with your spinning reel. After you cast and the bail flips over, tug on the line about 6" above the reel to eliminate any small loops before you start reeling it back in. This could possibly save your spool on the next cast. "Honor is a man's gift to himself" Rob Roy McGregor
RSBreth Posted April 14, 2012 Posted April 14, 2012 See - that's the trade-offf: Either you learn to tie a leader back on when you break off or you have to do the whole spooling the right way - line spray goop, letting the line troll itself twist free downstream, etc. I'd rather take the few seconds to re-tie a leader than screw with all that stuff. If I was really smart like Al I'd just tie direct and skip the leader I guess.
Mitch f Posted April 14, 2012 Posted April 14, 2012 See - that's the trade-offf: Either you learn to tie a leader back on when you break off or you have to do the whole spooling the right way - line spray goop, letting the line troll itself twist free downstream, etc. I'd rather take the few seconds to re-tie a leader than screw with all that stuff. If I was really smart like Al I'd just tie direct and skip the leader I guess. the difference is you only do it once and off line my way "Honor is a man's gift to himself" Rob Roy McGregor
Gavin Posted April 14, 2012 Posted April 14, 2012 I can tie a leader on in about 15 seconds with a surgeons knot. Uni to Uni, Albrights, and other fancy knots take to long. Here's an illustration...havent tried the canoeman loop yet. http://www.doalures.com/uploads/Docs/9102_DOA_10.28__Knot_Page.pdf
Wayne SW/MO Posted April 14, 2012 Posted April 14, 2012 How is it with line twist on spinning reels? When I throw mono/hybrids on spinning tackle I get terrible line twist. Don't take this wrong, but that's your fault and not the line. If you do 3 things you can virtually eliminate it all together. The only exception is if the lure is doing the twisting. First thing is to always close the bail by hand. Two is when you put on new line taking it off the spool in the right direction only helps, but it doesn't cure because the diameters don't match. After you fill a spool, take it outside and pull off as much line as you can in a straight line. Then holding the line between your thumb and forefinger reel it in, not too fast. Next run the spool under hot tap water for a minute or two and warm it up. You will have very little problems after doing this. If a lure puts too much twist in the line repeat pulling the line off and putting it back on the spool. Today's release is tomorrows gift to another fisherman.
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