Tying Video: Mike Schmidt's Double Deceiver

[Nortrad]

I'll have to see it to believe it, only the best fishermen could catch anything on that fly.

They work on the White. Not sure if they'll work for Wise though...

[Nick Williams]

Like you, I have only fished the Chubby Muffin a couple of times and can't really say that I have had a ton of luck on it. BUT, I don't hold anything against ANY pattern that I haven't fished hard for a long time--if a Chubby Muffin lands on the head of a giant brown....it is going to be eaten.

I tied bucktail Clousers for a long time too and then I had Kyle Kosovich throw an EP Fiber Clouser in my hand and I haven't tied any more out of bucktail since. Totally personal preference, I like the fact that I can get that slightly transparent look with EP that I can't with bucktail. But has a bucktail Clouser caught around 2 billion percent more fish than an EP Clouser? Yes, yes it has.

The profile of that DD will slim down when it gets in the water so the dry DD is crazy big. So here is a picture of a couple of Dry Double Deceivers

And here is a wet Double Deceiver

We actually threw the DD for Whites and Stripers this year....it was a funky white and striper season here but it did stick some Whites and some small Spotted Bass....got some Great video for the Spring video of this huge fly in their mouth.

What were you throwing this fly with? Full sinking line? I tied one up, it is A LOT more buoyant than I expected. Or are you just fishing it near the surface?

[Brian Wise]

What were you throwing this fly with? Full sinking line? I tied one up, it is A LOT more buoyant than I expected. Or are you just fishing it near the surface?

I am fishing them on sink-tips. The RIO 15' Density Compensated line to be exact. The Double Deceiver is a little bit like a Sex Dungeon in the fact that you really need to "prime" it before you start fishing it. I prime mine by sticking them in the water and squeezing them. Some bouyancy is a good thing as long as it doesn't float. Moving through the water they are pretty neutral, not sinking real fast and not floating.

[Nick Williams]

I am fishing them on sink-tips. The RIO 15' Density Compensated line to be exact. The Double Deceiver is a little bit like a Sex Dungeon in the fact that you really need to "prime" it before you start fishing it. I prime mine by sticking them in the water and squeezing them. Some bouyancy is a good thing as long as it doesn't float. Moving through the water they are pretty neutral, not sinking real fast and not floating.

Is that a tip that you bought in addition to fly line, or is it just the front 15' of the fly line is sinking? I haven't ever used sinking tips or lines so I am curious. Yeah I try to always 'prime' my bigger subsurface flies, it didt

[Jason R.]

I like to fish DDs on the White with a 350 grain rio striper liner when the water is up. It gets em down pretty good. Biggest brown I've ever caught came on an olive DD.

[Brian Wise]

Is that a tip that you bought in addition to fly line, or is it just the front 15' of the fly line is sinking? I haven't ever used sinking tips or lines so I am curious. Yeah I try to always 'prime' my bigger subsurface flies, it didt

Actually, that is a complete line.

http://www.rioproducts.com/fly-lines/freshwater/sink-tip/15ft-type-3-sinking-tip/

I like to fish DDs on the White with a 350 grain rio striper liner when the water is up. It gets em down pretty good. Biggest brown I've ever caught came on an olive DD.

The Outbound (http://www.rioproducts.com/fly-lines/outbound/coldwater/outbound-short/) is also awesome for the tailwaters. I use a shorter sinking head on the North Fork of the White because we typically don't fish a real long way away from the boat.

[Nick Williams]

Is there such a thing as just a sinking tip that you can add to fly line? Or do you just recommend getting a full line with the sinking tip?

[Brian Wise]

Is there such a thing as just a sinking tip that you can add to fly line? Or do you just recommend getting a full line with the sinking tip?

There are loop-to-loop sink tips that you can add to your floating line (as long as your grain weight is proportional to your floating line weight) and also sinking leaders. The loop-to-loop sink tip will add a significant "hinge" when you are casting and take some time to get used to. The leaders are pretty cool and don't hinge quite as bad as a sink tip. The reason I suggest the Density Compensated line is that it is as close to casting a standard weight forward floating line.....but it is a sink tip. Best streamer line I have ever fished.

[Jason R.]

I used a big skagit tip (i think) occasionally that sinks like a rock. Somebody gave it to me (I think its Rio)- but I use that on the end of floating lines occasionally and it is a bear to cast... but it does work... did I mention I am a tight wad?

[Brian Wise]

I used a big skagit tip (i think) occasionally that sinks like a rock. Somebody gave it to me (I think its Rio)- but I use that on the end of floating lines occasionally and it is a bear to cast... but it does work... did I mention I am a tight wad?

I swear, the only semi-nice way to fish a setup like that is with a 10wt. Streamer lines are expensive, and as often as 'most' people really fish them they are hard to justify buying a line like that.....kind of like an 8wt. But both will make it easier on you in the long run.