Derby Dealings

[laker67]

Heard through the grapevine, that maybe some underhanded dealings went on at this years rose holland derby. Maybe reed tackle cant fill us in on the double dealing. What have you heard Idlewilde?

[NoLuck]

Certainly this can't possibly be true. All fish are caught fairly and by honorable fishermen. What could you possibly gain by cheating in a tournament??

[laker67]

Heard a name and heard a story. The name I have heard several times in the past, the story, well, goes with the name. Here's what I heard. A certain individual, lets just call him TS wo we can put a name on the story. TS heads out to rockbridge to catch him some big ole derby fish. Catches about a 150 dollar stringer and heads back to montauk just in time for derby day. As the story goes, no one is for certain when the fish were caught, but they are certain that one was very cold and still in defrost mode. When hatchery personell arrived, they notice something strange about these fish. they are of the emerson strain of rainbow unlike the arlee strain that mdc raises and releases. Now lets just say that TS lives in st louis and just for grins lets call him a retired electrician. Got to keep the story going. He makes a round trip from slt to rockbridge, and then back to montauk on derby day. What do you think, a hundred bucks in gas? Pays 150 bucks for a stringer of hybrid trout that wont thaw quick enough to make the derby weigh in.Not sure if he was looking for fame and glory, or just the hundred dollar prize money. I think it surely has to be impossible to make up a story this good.

[awhuber]

Heard a name and heard a story. The name I have heard several times in the past, the story, well, goes with the name. Here's what I heard. A certain individual, lets just call him TS wo we can put a name on the story. TS heads out to rockbridge to catch him some big ole derby fish. Catches about a 150 dollar stringer and heads back to montauk just in time for derby day. As the story goes, no one is for certain when the fish were caught, but they are certain that one was very cold and still in defrost mode. When hatchery personell arrived, they notice something strange about these fish. they are of the emerson strain of rainbow unlike the arlee strain that mdc raises and releases. Now lets just say that TS lives in st louis and just for grins lets call him a retired electrician. Got to keep the story going. He makes a round trip from slt to rockbridge, and then back to montauk on derby day. What do you think, a hundred bucks in gas? Pays 150 bucks for a stringer of hybrid trout that wont thaw quick enough to make the derby weigh in.Not sure if he was looking for fame and glory, or just the hundred dollar prize money. I think it surely has to be impossible to make up a story this good.

FRAUD written next to his 3 fish FRAUD written next to all his fish on the lunker board...

[laker67]

Thanks aw, I heard that as well and forgot to mention it.

[awhuber]

Thanks aw, I heard that as well and forgot to mention it.

And he was arrested For FRAUD! Pretty amazing someone would do that for $100.00...

[laker67]

And he was arrested For FRAUD! Pretty amazing someone would do that for $100.00...

Thanks again, had not heard about the arrest.

[jdmidwest]

How else could you recover the money you spend at Rockbridge?

[10pointer]

Unfreaking-believable!!!! I cant stand the guy. Has the biggest cockiest attitude around. Id love to call him out have a little friendly competitionon any stream to put him in his place , alot of people havecalled him out on his cheating. He walks around handing out his "baseball card" with some arkansas supposed record from the70's. Now IF that was legit thats something to be proud of but its been broken repeatedly lol. I just cant stand the attitude from someone who would get cleaned up on the stream. Just airing my frustration...my apologies.

He turned 4 10lb fish a few yrs ago at the sept derby. Supposedly all from one hole between the mill and the junction he said....all bs they never stock back there. He was and has been called out for years guess he never learns

The day after the september derby just a month ago the clown turns in 2 10lb fish...which were from rockbridge and turned in at montauk. I know this for a fact. They called down and verified it. They were on to his usual tactics and i would have known if those fish were in the park.

Go two weeks later last week of sept and this j%@*%*# again turns in 2 fish that just happened to be a few ounces smaller than those weighed 2 weeks prior again 2 10lb rainbows. He was told he was caught by personnel at the park.

Then Tony does it again apparently????!!!! They know how big the fish are that they put in for a fun derby like that. I left the holland at noon on saturday and this must have happened after or on sunday? Id like to hear more details on this?!

Was he really arrested down at the park any confirmation?

Its just a troutpark ...with stocked fish and he pushes it this far? enough to get arrested??

The idiot deserves everything he has coming to him. I cant wait to see him down there ill have to ask him how well that cheating worked out for him haha. Really cant stand it and sad to see some moron like that will ruin a fun charitable (american heart assc) derby for everyone.

[laker67]

Hi 10 pointer. Myself and a few others on this forum have known him for 40 years. Same ole ts, nothing changes. Although he is a bit more creative than before. In the early days, he would just snag the fish that were in the creek on derby day. Has even been known to try to weigh in the same fish more than once over the course of the day. A couple of big bell sinkers can change the weight just enough to make the judge scratch his head and wonder.Here is something that I heard from Jeff Tief on thursday. Talking with his buddy at the park store, he was told that ts got off on a technicality Apparently, no where in the derby regs, does it say that the fish you weigh in, have to be caught at montauk. Not sure that they can even ban him from the park. You all can do what we did at bssp, you can discourge his presence. Forget I said that, that paints a terrible picture for trout fishermen. Best bet would be just to ignore and not attract any attention to him. I think he thrives on attention, good or bad.