fishinwrench Posted November 27, 2012 Posted November 27, 2012 Rhonda, There's a bit of a play on words going on in that area. "No Ethanol" does not always mean "no Alcohol". I obviously haven't chemically tested any of the available fuel out there but I'd bet that it is next to impossible to purchase fuel anywhere that is alcohol free. Your O/B's should run fine on it since you are careful not to let it sit too long. The only fuel caused issues I've personally worked through were either a result of fuel that was 4-6 months old, or fuel that had numerous additives poured into it. (It looked fine, smelled fine, and passed the H2O contamination test.... but the engine just wouldn't run right and wouldn't respond to idle mixture adjustments. That's when I know that something is wrong with the fuel the engine is being fed, and so far those instances have always been a result of the owner dumping additives in it). All I can tell you for certain is that I haven't run into any fresh pump fuel AROUND MY AREA that an outboard wont run fine on. There may be some in other areas.
jeb Posted November 28, 2012 Posted November 28, 2012 Rhonda, There's a bit of a play on words going on in that area. "No Ethanol" does not always mean "no Alcohol". I obviously haven't chemically tested any of the available fuel out there but I'd bet that it is next to impossible to purchase fuel anywhere that is alcohol free. I took this picture a couple of years ago at the Jiffy Kwick here in Rogers, AR. They still advertise the same thing. I'd be pretty surprised to find any alcohol in their fuel. John B 08 Skeeter SL210, 225F Yamaha
Stump bumper Posted November 29, 2012 Posted November 29, 2012 You would have to define "gas" since 10% or E85 is still legal form of "gas" and you by law don't have to post warnings or advertise your gas contains ethanol unless it is over 20%. That is the reason the military uses designations such as JP8, JP4, JP6 because the mixtures are more defined than Diesel or fuel or gas. Not saying I have tested any of these but after finding out that Taco Bell's "beef tacos" were 20% beef I don't believe much. Just like the wording on Walmart's 2 cyl oil says it meets all manufacturer's warranty requirements but every dealer tells me the factory reps won't pay for a repair if you run the Walmart oil?? My belief is there are two type of gas companies dishonest and greedy and right out liars..... I really believe the best gas comes from the stations that have good sealed tanks and move the most since it is replaced the quickest and most of the time that is the cheapest station in town, since you don't always get more by paying more.
fishinwrench Posted November 29, 2012 Posted November 29, 2012 I think Stump bumper has it closer to right. And again.... advertising "no ethanol" is not making a claim of 0% ALCOHOL content. "Ethanol" is not the only alcohol based formula, it is only one of them. And everyone has just forgotten what REAL gasoline looks, smells, and feels like.
J-Doc Posted November 29, 2012 Author Posted November 29, 2012 So all gas stations have alcohol in them. Of all gas stations have ethanol? Ergo.....you'd better make sure your outboard can handle alcohol? Is that what I'm reading here fishinwrench? So it really doesn't matter which station you go too.....its more about can your outboard handle it due to the kind of gaskets and equipment you have? Trying to follow this. Its getting interesting.... Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2 Need marine repair? Send our own forum friend "fishinwrench" a message. He will treat you like family!!! I owe fishinwrench a lot of thanks. He has been a great mechanic with lots of patience!
fishinwrench Posted November 29, 2012 Posted November 29, 2012 Pretty much, yeah. You can't control the available fuel quality. You might be able to today, but probably not tomorrow so it's pointless to trip on it. If all is well with your outboard then you'll know immediately if you get a truly bad dose of fuel. And getting bad fuel isn't as common as alot of techs might want you to believe. Too many times folks are told that the available fuel quality is the reason for a problem when it truly isn't. That's the bottom line.
J-Doc Posted November 29, 2012 Author Posted November 29, 2012 Bringing you my rig next week. Counting down the days! Lol! So ready to get my motor finally rebuilt and get her back on the water running good as new. There are fish to be caught dagnabit!! Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2 Need marine repair? Send our own forum friend "fishinwrench" a message. He will treat you like family!!! I owe fishinwrench a lot of thanks. He has been a great mechanic with lots of patience!
J-Doc Posted November 29, 2012 Author Posted November 29, 2012 I'll be there after lunch Dec 7th btw. Hope you still have an open spot for her. Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2 Need marine repair? Send our own forum friend "fishinwrench" a message. He will treat you like family!!! I owe fishinwrench a lot of thanks. He has been a great mechanic with lots of patience!
fishinwrench Posted November 29, 2012 Posted November 29, 2012 I'll be there after lunch Dec 7th btw. Hope you still have an open spot for her. Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2 Looking forward to it. Bring a few poles, the weather outlook (if we can trust it) looks awesome. There's a few spots real close we can hit that won't wear you out too much before heading back.
J-Doc Posted November 29, 2012 Author Posted November 29, 2012 Well crap. I can't turn that down! Guess I have to buy a MO license. Poor me. Haha!! Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2 Need marine repair? Send our own forum friend "fishinwrench" a message. He will treat you like family!!! I owe fishinwrench a lot of thanks. He has been a great mechanic with lots of patience!
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