Political topic

[Rusty]

I agree Ron. Mother nature gave people two ears, two eyes but only one mouth for a reason. It seems obvious that mother nature meant for people to hear and see a lot more than talk. Unfortunatly the talkers dont seem to understand this and they need to learn and understand what they are talking about before running off at the mouth.

It is because they talk out of both sides of their mouth. One ear is to listen to the people, the other is to listen to the lobbyist. One eye is to watch where the money is, the other is to close when things are going bad.

[Snow Fly]

It is really strange this subject came up on the forum. While watching the Goats show up for some football today I became, forget that thought! I started flipping channels and ran across an oldie "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington". I started thinking how much that movie, from 1939, illustrated what is wrong with politics today!

Term limits for all public offices,One 6 year term for ALL offices in Washington, with 1/3 of Senators & Representatives being elected every two years, or some type of formula to have a turn over where not every office is elected at the same time.

Oh well back to reality!

[McManus]

This morning during an interview about his new book; a member of the audience asked Trent Lott about "pork legislation"----Trent said he defined pork as any money spent north of Memphis.

[Crippled Caddis]

Perhaps a selection of quotes, by the famous and infamous. will shed some light on the matter. CC

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"Thank God we don't get as much government as we pay for." - Charles Kettering

"The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop".-----P.J. O'Rourke

"The Constitution does not prohibit the people from making any decision. The Constitution allows for the people to overrule the judiciary, the executive or the legislative branches."---Gov. Milt Romney

Norman Thomas and Gus Hall, U.S. Communist Party Candidates, both quit American politics, agreeing that the Republican and Democratic parties by 1970 had adopted every plank of the Communist/Socialist Party and they no longer had an alternate party platform on which to run.

"The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.------NormanThomas

You do not examine legislation in the light of the benefits it will convey if properly administered, but in the light of the wrongs it would do and the harms it would cause if improperly administered. -- Lyndon Baines Johnson, U.S. President

I believe there are more instances of abridgment of freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpation . . ." --James Madison

"Ignorance and apathy are the principle enemies of freedom, surpassing even evil intent. Misguided good intentions is their greatest ally."---OF, 2006

"Experience teaches us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the government's purpose is beneficent.----The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding."----Justice Brandeis

"It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide."---John Adams

"Corruptisima republica plurimae leges." (The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws.)---Tacitus, Anals III 27

"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brushfires in peoples' minds".---Samuel Adams

"The mind is not a vessel to be filled, but a fire to be ignited."

---- Plutarch

"When the government fears the people, it is liberty. When the people fear the government, it is tyranny."---Thomas Paine

"The single certitude in the matter is that anyone who wants to limit in any fashion the right of the citizen to possess, at his own discretion, the means of self-defense is the enemy of free men. No reasoning, no excuses, no good intentions, earnest or feigned, can ameliorate the incontestable fact that the person who would infringe upon the right of individual self defense is in the camp of the enemies of freedom."------OF, 2006

[gonefishin]

Perhaps a selection of quotes, by the famous and infamous. will shed some light on the matter. CC

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"The single certitude in the matter is that anyone who wants to limit in any fashion the right of the citizen to possess, at his own discretion, the means of self-defense is the enemy of free men. No reasoning, no excuses, no good intentions, earnest or feigned, can ameliorate the incontestable fact that the person who would infringe upon the right of individual self defense is in the camp of the enemies of freedom."------OF, 2006

I agree completly with the above statement. I believe there is no freedom we possess that is so dear as the right to defend ourselves personally and as a country from any enemy up to and including our own government. As long as we retain this right we will always be a nation of free people. If we give this right up well then.......anyway, there is only one problem with the statement, I am probably being DUH but, who is OF?

[Crippled Caddis]

gonefishin wrote:

<I am probably being DUH but, who is OF?>

Whoops! Caught. Mea Maxima Culpa.

OF is the 'Old Fart' and is the persona under which I pen political opinion pieces. Occasionally I get off a line that so impresses me that I save it to my quote files.

One should never be caught quoting himself however. CC/OF

[Snow Fly]

CC/OF:

Nicely done!

[gonefishin]

gonefishin wrote:

<I am probably being DUH but, who is OF?>

Whoops! Caught. Mea Maxima Culpa.

OF is the 'Old Fart' and is the persona under which I pen political opinion pieces. Occasionally I get off a line that so impresses me that I save it to my quote files.

One should never be caught quoting himself however. CC/OF

Cool. I have tried to say the same thing many times but have never been able to put words to pen so well as you did. Great job. Mind if I quote it from time to time?

[Crippled Caddis]

Cool. I have tried to say the same thing many times but have never been able to put words to pen so well as you did. Great job. Mind if I quote it from time to time?

Help yourself! The "Old Fart' would be honored. It is a subject he is quite passionate on.

You gotta watch him close though. He tends to invent 'famous quotations' to fit the situation. His latest is:

"Though his coffers be filled with gold how destitute is the man who can find no passion worth risking it all". OF, 2006