Dock "fish Cleaning Stations" Question.

[Nitroman]

The USACOE inspect my boat-dock each & every year for a number of things, including each & every electrical outlet for proper installation & operation. Everyone of our outlets is a GFCI TYPE OUTLET & they use a tester on each & everyone both in the boat-stalls & out @ the fish-cleaning station.

Several years ago they sent us a registered letter & E-MAIL advising us that we could no longer use a submersible type pump in any manner @ our boat-dock. So, prior to their inspection that year I removed the old submersible type pump & installed a new 120 volt self-priming pump up on the boat-dock walk-way underneath the fish cleaning table. Easy & simple, drill a 1 inch hole in the walk-way, place a 3/4 inch pvc pipe down through the hole to below the water surface, connect the 3/4 inch pvc pipe to the pump inlet & plug the pump into a switch controlled GFCI OUTLET. Connect a garden hose to the pump outlet & you are done. No priming required & never an issue with freezing @ least not yet as the lake here @ our location has never gotten that cold.

[Old plug]

That is good that they do that. It is much like we do up here. do you have a requirement fo a grounding rod and circuit breaker off the dock. I did not agree with every outlet being GIF protected at one time but I do now. we also ground everything metal including swim ladders to the dock frame that is grounded to the grounding rod up on the bank. Only thing they have seem to have overlooked is lift frames it would seem normal if your going to ground swim ladders

[Ultralance12]

The regulation pretty much only eliminates bilge type pumps. As long as the current carrying portion of the motor is not submersed you should be good.

[Billfo]

The USACOE inspect my boat-dock each & every year for a number of things, including each & every electrical outlet for proper installation & operation. Everyone of our outlets is a GFCI TYPE OUTLET & they use a tester on each & everyone both in the boat-stalls & out @ the fish-cleaning station.

Several years ago they sent us a registered letter & E-MAIL advising us that we could no longer use a submersible type pump in any manner @ our boat-dock. So, prior to their inspection that year I removed the old submersible type pump & installed a new 120 volt self-priming pump up on the boat-dock walk-way underneath the fish cleaning table. Easy & simple, drill a 1 inch hole in the walk-way, place a 3/4 inch pvc pipe down through the hole to below the water surface, connect the 3/4 inch pvc pipe to the pump inlet & plug the pump into a switch controlled GFCI OUTLET. Connect a garden hose to the pump outlet & you are done. No priming required & never an issue with freezing @ least not yet as the lake here @ our location has never gotten that cold.

"registered letter & E-MAIL advising us that we could no longer use a submersible type pump in any manner @ our boat-dock"

Yup, thats the letter we got.

"120 volt self-priming pump up on the boat-dock walk-way underneath the fish cleaning table" Sounds like just what we need ! I have yet to find a "self priming" pump "cheap".. Do you remember any specifics on your pump ? Expecially price ?

Thanks for sharing.. Bill

[Old plug]

Does the corp say you not have permanent down pick up pipe from the pump????? if you can all you ned to do is install a strainer with a check valve in it and you will not need anything else.

[Old plug]

Billfo.....I am trying to understand the grounding grounding requirements. I am thinking they follow the same as we have up here now. Do you have to ground the entire dock by way of a heavy green grounding wire to a off dock circuit break on a post that is connected to a copper grounding pod about 3/4 of a in in diameter. Driven down 6 ft into the ground. Up here your suppose to have an additional cut off switch up on the house. I have not install the last switch yet but I will in spite of thinking it is over kill since we might be selling. You can test your own dock anytime you want by using a electric tester. If there is a y current leakage you will see it on the tester. I assume the corp test the water around your dock for leakage as well. I do that every now and then.

[Nitroman]

Billfo: Guess it all depends on what you call cheap. Purchased it @ LOWE'S in Hollister, MO. it is classified as a " TRANSFER PUMP " & if my memory serves me right about $70.00. Happy to show it to you, if you would like to lay your eyes upon it let me know.

[Billfo]

Billfo: Guess it all depends on what you call cheap. Purchased it @ LOWE'S in Hollister, MO. it is classified as a " TRANSFER PUMP " & if my memory serves me right about $70.00. Happy to show it to you, if you would like to lay your eyes upon it let me know.

Yes, thats what I call cheap !!! Looking at LOWES site, is this it ?

do you have to drain it or self prime & self draining ? (asking for the moon aint I )...

[Nitroman]

Billfo:

Looks very similar, only difference I see from the picture is the pump inlet on mine is @ 6 o'clock ( POINTS STRAIGHT DOWN ) rather than 1 o'clock. I would assume just a later model with a design change or 2. You don't have to do anything to it after it's initial operation, depending on a few variables you may have to prime it for it's initial operation, but once it's up & running your done.

[Billfo]

Billfo:

Looks very similar, only difference I see from the picture is the pump inlet on mine is @ 6 o'clock ( POINTS STRAIGHT DOWN ) rather than 1 o'clock. I would assume just a later model with a design change or 2. You don't have to do anything to it after it's initial operation, depending on a few variables you may have to prime it for it's initial operation, but once it's up & running your done.

Thanks ! Probaby will eithe go your way o the Pitcher pump (checkig with my neighbors) Hope to install something my next visit to the lake.