Question About Stripers And Whites...

[kjackson]

Here's a site to view the Flicker Minnow: http://www.fishusa.com/product/Berkley-Flicker-Minnows?utm_source=shopping_com&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=shopping_com&utm_source=eBay_Com

This is a pre-order offer. Word I got is that the baits won't really be available until "June", but that could be the end of the month.

KJ, I on occasion I will take a Kokanee clip and put it on my downrigger line 5ft above the weight and other bait.... typically a small 2'' crappie swim bait and up to 3'' works great on crappie.

The stinger set up I have in mind is put on the line on your rod. Even with a downrigger, the line from your rod to the release will form a bow unless you're dead still in the water. Guys in the Great Lakes will tie a short leader on a duo-lock snap and then a lure to the leader. They simply clip that to the main line. The lure will slide down to the point of the greatest bow in the line and stay there. Of course, a diving lure isn't an option in this case. When the fish hits, the clip will slide down to the release, and the whole package then trips the release-- or that's my understanding of the process.

F&F-- I like your idea of a three-way with a deep diver on the bottom and something like a crappie bait above that. Interesting...

[Feathers and Fins]

KJ you should see some of my creations, I get board and start playing around I have a few that I still ask myself what was I thinking.

[kjackson]

I'm thinking we should have a day where we fish nothing but WAG (Wild is the first word and Guess the last) presentations. I have some of my Western salmon/kokanee/walleye ideas that I have been wanting to try. I didn't get to fish much last year, and I have a list.

I do know I'll put out one experimental rod each trip until I get some answers. Last year according to my electronics I had a big fish (thinking maybe a striper) come up and look at one of my salmon rigs. He didn't hit it, but there is promise. So I'll continue to ask dumb questions. Be prepared.

[Feathers and Fins]

If we only had a source for Anchovies and Sardines out here the damage that could be inflicted would be unreal.

[kjackson]

Or herring...I'd plug cut one of those so fast... I still want to play with shad a bit as well. Rigging one of those as a whole bait might work, or brining 'em so they'd hold up and doing the herring thing might be good as well. But you've got to start with fresh shad.

I've also thought of some of the scent pads on the bottom of big Flatfish/Kwikfish and doused liberally with ProCure herring, shad or sardine scent might work. Tuna balls on the big plugs work on salmon and might here as would squid parts. Salmon and steelhead in the Great Lakes' fisheries really like squid, according to my sources. Figure out why that works. If I could find squid somewhere, it'd be worth a try here, assuming, of course, I can find the fish first.

But, and it's a question worth asking, are stripers/whites attracted by scent or by sight? Walleyes do much better if there is scent, and that I know for a fact unless the Southern version is a lot different from those where I used to fish.

I really need to get work finished so i can go fishing...

[Feathers and Fins]

Squid just works the scent is very strong and the flavor must be as appealing to fish as it is to me. Its why I use Keitech the squid scent. I haven't found a fish yet who doesn't like it.

[JohnF52]

I soaked a Hot N Tot in punch bait juice yesterday and then caught another channel cat on it.

[Greg W]

F&F

Do you think that the scents help with artificial baits? If so how do you think striper will react to it?

[innova]

I have used the following 3 way swivel rig with success on whites, large mouth, Kentuckian, and wall eyes in the fall.

3 way swivel

3 foot lead going down with 1 3/4 ounce white spoon - this is used at the weight end

5 to 6 foot leader with jerk bait attached

Trolled the boat at 3/4 mph with eletric motor, bouncing spoon off bottom with occasional forward sweep of the rod to add action to the jerk bait. Usually fish this in 25 - 30 fow of water in Praire Creek in November and December.

Work every time.

[innova]

This link will explain it better. Or search for 3 way rigging for walleye.

Just replace the weight with the 1 3/4 ounce spoon