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Man, I don't know that that is so unusual. I'm thinking this falls within the way things normally work. Making it out to be something it isn't undermines the argument, IMO.

John

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Who do they do it in Kansas, Ness?

I once hunted prairie chickens around Shawnee, KS, other upland game in other parts of the state. Fantastic.

But I understand permission is hard to get now, that there's very little public land and it is overhunted. Is that true?

It has been a couple of decades since I've been there. Does it still offers some of the best upland hunting in the nation?

Where's your favorite places to fish and hunt in Kansas?

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By the way, they are not just trying to pass laws to limit the authority and funding of the MDC, they are trying to use existing laws to do the same thing. A group of deer breeders supported by the Missouri Deer Assc., which is the new name of the Whitetail Deer Breeders and Hunting Ranch Assc., plus the American Cervid Alliance is funding a lawsuit to have captive deer reclassified as livestock. This lawsuit probably doesn't have a chance, but it will cost the MDC big dollars to fight, which may be the main purpose of it.

A bill to achieve this actually did pass some months ago, but was vetoed by the Governor. A vote to override his veto failed by one vote. One vote.This could have been devastating to the entire wild herd through the spread of Chronic Wasting Disease. This is when I started paying attention, and when I learned of the multi-pronged attack on the MDC, I started getting involved.

Now the same bill to reclassify captive deer, sponsored by Munzlinger, has been reintroduced. It is in committee now, where it should die, but the committee, Agriculture, Food Production and Outdoor Resources, is chaired by Munzlinger. Do you think they will recommend it come to a vote?

Munzlinger is possibly the most powerful and active opponent of the MDC, yet he is the chairman of the committee over "Outdoor Resources."

That's bad enough, but he's far from alone. There is a concerted effort by a good number of representatives to damage or destroy MDC, and they have considerable support in the legislature, because many of them resent the fact they can't exert control over MDC. That's why they claim the MDC is "arrogant" and "unresponsive." It's simply because they can't control them, or the money they bring in.

I implore everyone interested in the fish and wildlife "resources" of this state to join the Conservation Federation of Missouri. http://confedmo.org/ The "wolf" truly is at the door, and CFM is the citizen's organization blocking it.

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Who do they do it in Kansas, Ness?

I once hunted prairie chickens around Shawnee, KS, other upland game in other parts of the state. Fantastic.

But I understand permission is hard to get now, that there's very little public land and it is overhunted. Is that true?

It has been a couple of decades since I've been there. Does it still offers some of the best upland hunting in the nation?

Where's your favorite places to fish and hunt in Kansas?

Permission is hard to get anywhere -- it's not a Kansas thing. Public land is hunted hard, especially if there are a lot of people close by. Also not unique to Kansas.

I fish in MO about the same amount as I fish in KS. Hunt both too, but more in KS. I work in MO and buy stuff there too, soand pay taxes there.

Kansas has a 'Walk-In Hunting Area' program, in place since the mid-90's, in which farmers get a little cash and make their properties available to hunters. There are something like 2,000 of them across the state, and who knows how many acres; more than a million.

John

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I've had some very good times hunting in Kansas with Mike Pearce. Turkey hunted there with Ray Eye too.

Hey Ron Kruger when did you slip back in here?

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I for one appreciate vey much Ron all the time you have taken to research and post here what is happening.

Too bad it's not near as important as the Ned Rig.

How sad that a piece of plastic worm on a jig has far more threads and thread pages then what is happening to the very resource they are about to loose.

Priorities I guess.

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