jbooth24 Posted March 14, 2015 Posted March 14, 2015 What are the diffrent ways you can retrieve the ned rig. Going to give it a shot this week
Fish24/7 Posted March 14, 2015 Posted March 14, 2015 How to make it work There is really no wrong way to fish the rigs. Kehde has developed 6 presentations, which all have a time and place. According to Guido Hibdon, most finesse anglers use too heavy of a jig because they want to feel it traverse across the bottom. He believes that these baits perform more naturally when paired with lighter weights. Kehde stresses that this technique is a “no-feel” presentation, and it takes time to develop an angler’s feel for the rig. Swim, glide and shake: When fish are feeding more aggressively, Kehde utilizes the swim, glide, and shake retrieve. This technique consists of casting your rig out and letting it fall to the bottom before beginning your retrieve. While the bait falls to the bottom, Kehde shakes his rod lightly to employ more action. After it hits the bottom, he shakes and reels his rig back to the boat, while trying to keep it 6-12 inches off the bottom. If it gets too far off the bottom, he will let it drop again and start over. Kehde notes that this is a good retrieve for suspended fish as well. Straight swim: This retrieve is pretty obvious. Kehde likes to keep his rod tip down with a slow-paced retrieve when he fishes around submerged vegetation and weed beds. For this technique, Kehde generally prefers baits with some tail action, such as a small grub or swimbait, but he doesn’t hesitate to throw any of his other options. Drag and shake: When the fishing is a bit tougher, or if the bass are bottom-oriented, Kehde opts for the drag and shake presentation. It is very similar to working a shaky head; Kehde keeps the bait on the bottom, while pulling and shaking the small plastic with his rod. “We were watching Shiniki Fukae at an FLW tournament a few years ago, and noticed how much he likes to shake his rod while working finesse plastics,” Kehde said. “Since that day, we began to shake our rigs much more aggressively and to much success.” Drag and deadstick: When the fishing is at its toughest, and the bass are in a very lethargic mood, Kehde chooses to deadstick his rig. He simply casts the bait out, lets it settle to the bottom, and deadsticks it for 3-5 seconds before dragging the bait a few feet. He then lets it settle and deadsticks it again. A great way to fish in colder water. Hop and bounce: When the bass are keying on crayfish and other underwater crustaceans, Kehde prefers to use the hop and bounce retrieve. He lets it hit the bottom like the other retrieves. Then, he makes two turns of the reel handle, lets his bait settle to the bottom again and repeats all the way back. Stroll: When Kehde is trying to cover a large flat or an area where the bass are spread out, he likes to “stroll” his rig. This retrieve requires the trolling motor. Let the bait settle but let the trolling motor or wind do the work until the bait is directly behind the boat, when you reel it in and make another cast. These are the presentations that Kehde has utilized over his many years, but there is no wrong way to fish it. “Try it for yourself, and find a way that you feel comfortable catching fish,” said Kehde. http://wired2fish.scout.com/story/1473427-have-you-fished-the-ned-rig-for-bass
jbooth24 Posted March 14, 2015 Author Posted March 14, 2015 Thank you soo much will give it a try hopefully tomorrow
dtrs5kprs Posted March 14, 2015 Posted March 14, 2015 In the Ozark lakes you can't go wrong deadsticking it, with very light shaking on slack line. Slower is always better. The swim, and glide type retrieves have been best for me when they are shallow on beds, or cruising. Once in a while it will work around docks, pilings, or on grub places. It is important to keep in mind that Ned and some of the others who fish a little farther north are often fishing lakes with grass. That makes the swim/glide deal a lot more important. In a primarily rock lake, it really pays off to keep it on the bottom, but without trying to feel it. The bit from Guido that Fish posted is very accurate.
Guest Posted March 14, 2015 Posted March 14, 2015 I use a pendulum method too. Once I've worked it all the way to the boat, lift the rod to the 12 oclock position & let it swing towards the boat. As the line reaches the rail of the boat, that's when I get a "no feel" bite from followers. (this adds an addition 5 fish per trip to my total) As for dead sticking, I'm a "no shake" type. Most of the guys like to shake, not me. I like to leave it alone as if it were live bait. Then drag it over 1 piece of gravel & repeat. Its slower than most people fish a jerkbait on the pause.
dtrs5kprs Posted March 14, 2015 Posted March 14, 2015 I use a pendulum method too. Once I've worked it all the way to the boat, lift the rod to the 12 oclock position & let it swing towards the boat. As the line reaches the rail of the boat, that's when I get a "no feel" bite from followers. (this adds an addition 5 fish per trip to my total) As for dead sticking, I'm a "no shake" type. Most of the guys like to shake, not me. I like to leave it alone as if it were live bait. Then drag it over 1 piece of gravel & repeat. Its slower than most people fish a jerkbait on the pause. Well described. Just inching it over things, and letting the elaztech go to work. It is far slower than a stick, except maybe the way Buster fishes a stick for walleye. The shake is something you have to add or subtract based on the day.
Guest Posted March 14, 2015 Posted March 14, 2015 Lucky for me, my dad fishes slower than anybody I've ever seen. It's like watching paint dry. The other day, I asked him if he was fishing slow enough. His reply "if it's any slower, it would be dead". He always makes me laugh
Members Rob Shaw Posted March 20, 2015 Members Posted March 20, 2015 I primarily fish dirty tidal river systems here in Virginia (James, Chickahominy, Potomac). In these areas where the bottoms are mud/silt etc, Ive had success targeting hard surfaces such as cypress trees, cypress knees, etc. Lake Gaston and Kerr (Buggs Island) are generally clear and Ive had success around docks and riprap. The intercoastal rivers in North East North Carolina are generally dark tannic stained waters with a lot of cypress trees and pad fields. Those are the areas I target with the Varmint on that system. Ive done my best to keep this a secret here. It has really bailed me out in tough tournaments. I was born and raised in Springfield, Mo (moved away in 79 to join the Navy). Ive adapted several "Ozark secrets" to my 30+ years of tournament fishing in multiple States...including Oahu, Hi!
Guest Posted March 20, 2015 Posted March 20, 2015 I didn't think about the sandy hard bottom areas around lilly pads & cypress trees, most folks think its all mud, but thats not the case. There's a reason certain clumps of cypress are better than others. I grew up fishing the Mississippi & Lower White River oxbows. Lots of sandy banks that are "do nothing" in appearance.
dtrs5kprs Posted March 20, 2015 Posted March 20, 2015 I primarily fish dirty tidal river systems here in Virginia (James, Chickahominy, Potomac). In these areas where the bottoms are mud/silt etc, Ive had success targeting hard surfaces such as cypress trees, cypress knees, etc. Lake Gaston and Kerr (Buggs Island) are generally clear and Ive had success around docks and riprap. The intercoastal rivers in North East North Carolina are generally dark tannic stained waters with a lot of cypress trees and pad fields. Those are the areas I target with the Varmint on that system. Ive done my best to keep this a secret here. It has really bailed me out in tough tournaments. I was born and raised in Springfield, Mo (moved away in 79 to join the Navy). Ive adapted several "Ozark secrets" to my 30+ years of tournament fishing in multiple States...including Oahu, Hi! It is dynamite flipped into the base of emerging pads. Not fully grown pads, but little ones that you could run a crankbait or spinnerbait through. Same little heads, same six pound line. Have a customer who fished Rayovacs last year and gave some to a friend who finished in the top 10 on the upper Mississippi when they stopped at LaCrosse, WI. Have yet to find a place it won't work, including saltwater.
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