Terry Beeson Posted April 18, 2007 Posted April 18, 2007 bojack, Who is this Mr. Beeson you were referring to?... (No formalities, please... Mr. Beeson was... well, actually my GRANDfather... My father was even like me and didn't like formalities as such. But, I do "respect the respect" shown... uh.. Mr. Jack...sir...) TIGHT LINES, YA'LL "There he stands, draped in more equipment than a telephone lineman, trying to outwit an organism with a brain no bigger than a breadcrumb, and getting licked in the process." - Paul O’Neil
Rusty Posted April 18, 2007 Author Posted April 18, 2007 Honest question----anyone know if the Columbine shooters were 18 or older? I don't, but I do know the Jonesboro shooters were quite a bit younger. 17 and 18 were their ages.
Root Admin Phil Lilley Posted April 18, 2007 Root Admin Posted April 18, 2007 I really don't have a handle on this. Death causes many different responses- some use it for their own causes, others try to find blame with someone or something, and then there's others that will try to regulate our rights and behavior so that it will never happen again. My first thought would be to reflect on my own heart and relationships. They certainly aren't perfect- not even right- but my base line is my relationship with the Lord. Death does that- bring us all back to reality. Reality is that we all will die. We have no control. If we think we do we are lying to ourselves. Now we can argue guns and knives all day. We all have our opinions and we are passionate about them. I would suggest putting our passion towards living in a unselfish way, laying our lives down for each other, if nothing else, in small ways. If you can't seem to overcome selfishness, greed, backbiting, gluttony, lust, adultery, murder, stealing, anger... you might bend your knee to a loving and forgiving God, tell Jesus you've fallen short of the mark, ask Him for forgiveness and begin a whole new direction in the relm of eternity.
taxidermist Posted April 18, 2007 Posted April 18, 2007 CC you are right. I trained people in the service on how to take a knife to a gun fight and win. If someone is going to take me out its going to be with a fight if at all possible. Like 9/11 I just could not imagine sitting on an airplane and someone with a box cutter holding me hostage. Even in todays no knife or weapon, therrre is always a weapon of somekind somewhere somehow. A thumb can be a dangerous weapon and an elbow is a super close super hard weapon. As well as the old "Gotta Hold" testicles in on hand with a pull hard enough to start a Model 55 Mc Cullough chainsaw. I have yet to see any man standup to that!! Or removing the larnyx with a single pull! Many of todays youth don't have the survival instincts. John
jdmidwest Posted April 18, 2007 Posted April 18, 2007 Wow, I think everyone has lost focus on this one, A NUTJOB killed alot of kids and is frying in hell for it now or dancing with Budda or whatever the Korean faith does. Why are we taking it out on each other? I made a statement about the way Reuters was using it as a preaching platform for gun control. Come to find out he bought it legal as reported today. The students were locked in a building with an idiot and a gun, yet nobody tried to overpower him. Who says he could have not done the same with a knife, if they just stood there and let him do it. Reuters made it political, slanting a story to get a little press. I noticed the reports today have leaned away from it. When Columbine happened, the 2 rejects had so much press that it spawned the Ky massacre and then the Jonesboro massacre. The world is full of nuts and the press gives them more ideas. That was my beef. When in school I carried pocket knives everyday and almost all boys did at that time. We left guns in our cars when we went to school after a morning turkey hunt. If you are under 21 you can't purchase a handgun anyway. When in college, we kept firearms in campus housing. We were hunters and sportsman, you could not leave them in a vehicle for fear of theft. Nowadays, you can not go near a school with any type of weapon. I have carried a firearm of some form or another within close reach since I was 21. I would not fault any sane individual that does the same. When MO passed the concealed carry law, I did not rush out to get one or have one yet, I do not carry concealed. I feel better knowing that I could access a firearm for self defense if needed, given the chance. The main thing is to be alert to your environment and always watch for danger. I could happen anywhere. It should not be about politics, it is about Right and Wrong. Teach your kids and others that and the world will be a better place. The weapon does not kill, its the person using it. By the way, how's fishing? "Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously." — Hunter S. Thompson
gonefishin Posted April 18, 2007 Posted April 18, 2007 No kidding. This is a tragedy plain and simple. Those who would use it to gain in their political objectives are .... well, sick. How did an foreigner legally purchase a hand gun? It clearly asks on the paperwork if a person is a citizen or not. A 'no' answer should have been cause for a reject. I would rather be fishin'. "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." Benjamin Franklin, 1759
jdmidwest Posted April 18, 2007 Posted April 18, 2007 An article stated yesterday that he had a Green Card and was a legal citizen. As long as you have that and no criminal record you can purchase the gun. He had bought the 9mm 2 months ago along with a box of ammo. It did not state where the 22 came from. They interviewed the shop owner where he bought the gun, he was upset. The gun laws would not have made a difference unless he had a prior history of mental illness. It seems like he was a loner and probably had a mental background. He could have lied about that part on his yellow sheet. "Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously." — Hunter S. Thompson
Root Admin Phil Lilley Posted April 18, 2007 Root Admin Posted April 18, 2007 "frying in hell for it now or dancing with Budda or whatever the Korean faith does." Most of the country is Christian. It has the largest church in the world. Large Presbyterian influence too. You'll see a lot of South Koreans in this country are Presbyterians. FYI
Terry Beeson Posted April 18, 2007 Posted April 18, 2007 Phil, TWO EXCELLENT posts... thank you kind sir... There is a Korean Presbyterian Church right here in Nixa folks... And JD... you might want to do some re-research. No. 1, the Jonesboro shootings occurred a year before Columbine. If you are referring to the Paducah, KY killings, that was 4 months PRIOR to Jonesboro...Click here for a timeline of school shootings. No. 2, the shooter in the VT incident was a "permanent legal resident" with a green card. He was not a "citizen", but this gave him the same right as a citizen has to purchase the gun. Something that may change with this tragedy. But, all said, Phil is correct. This should serve only to prompt us to search our OWN hearts... TIGHT LINES, YA'LL "There he stands, draped in more equipment than a telephone lineman, trying to outwit an organism with a brain no bigger than a breadcrumb, and getting licked in the process." - Paul O’Neil
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