Flysmallie Posted January 26, 2007 Posted January 26, 2007 I've been wondering about those magic heads for quite some time. I always wanted to try them but never have. Looks like another new smallie pattern is gonna be in the works. I know how much they like those little crankbaits. Will these heads give a fly that type of action?
Jeremy Hunt Posted January 26, 2007 Posted January 26, 2007 Flysmallie, You asked, Will these heads give a fly that type of action? To answer your question, yes they will and I have found they give a whole other type of action if you cut a half circle in the top of the magic head. You can also push the cup back and have the swimming effect. All I know is if you like fishing for warm water fish with a fly rod, this will take it to a whole other level as far as the action of a baitfish pattern in my opinion. I should have alot of pictures this up coming season with fish caught on these patterns. I'm excited to see what happens... jh Accept the drift.....<>>><flysandguides.comVisit my blog
Jeremy Hunt Posted January 26, 2007 Posted January 26, 2007 Jeremy the fly you tied looks great and I think that the other baitfish that you have tied with the EP fibers look good aswell. You should come up here to the store or give a call and maybe we could swap some ideas. Davy showed me how to tie this fly a couple of years ago when he was up here at my shop. I had seen them in a magazine but was unsure exactly how to tie them so he sat down with me and showed me one on one. Thanks The Davy Wotton Shad has become one of my favorite bait fish patterns that I fish now, espeicaly if there has been a shad kill. (TROUT) The thing I like about this pattern is that if you want it on top fish it on a dry line if you want it to get down fish it on a sinking line and it will be. I feel that ever how you wish to fish the fly it will be efective just pay attenetion to the fish and let them dictate how you fish the fly. I'm sure other people have done this I'm sure I was not the first. And who knows I may be fishing totally wrong. For the Whites, Hybrids and Stripers I have had pretty good luck with them I fished them some last year down in Tulsa and had pretty good luck epsecially when the fish were very actively feeding. One of my favorite places to fish them is up on Stockon Lake, I'm not sure how many whites that I have caught on them but it has been a bunch it is a very good fly especially when you fish it on a sink tip(150gr-250gr). You want to find the flats that open to deep water and is covered in wind. Thosands of bait fish and a lot of whites. You can sight fish to the schools of the Whites or if it is really windy and the water is all stired up you can blind cast to them. On thing that I will do is get out with my boat and use my graph to locate the bait fish and start casting because the white's will be around some where. I hope that answers some questions. Michael Thanx Michael, I'm just playing around with some baitfish for Phil and Jim who have that lodge in Alaska. There is a smolt run that comes through there and they want to see what happens with those bigger flies in the baitfish that run in thick schools. I know that would be a rush and one day I will be up there doing just that. I will give you a call and maybe we can just sit around the shop and mess around with some stuff. I'm always up for learning new ideas. That's what gets me on the vise everyday. When is a good time to reach you? I was up there last week and bought some of that mottlebou. I like it, but it doesn't go a long way. I put some patterns on my site if you wanted to check out what I did with that stuff. Have you tied with it? I'm anxious to see what you guys came up with. Accept the drift.....<>>><flysandguides.comVisit my blog
Micheal Kyle Posted January 26, 2007 Posted January 26, 2007 I'm here 10-7 just about everyday. 417-889-6548 To Know People Is To Know Thier Ways!
Jeremy Hunt Posted January 27, 2007 Posted January 27, 2007 Do I need to bring anything or do you have stuff lying around? I would like to come up when you think you have some time to tie without me taking time away what your doing or from your customers. What's a good time to come. I think it would be fun and looking forward to it... What about Monday or Tuesday and making a day out of it or something. Just a suggestion…… jh Accept the drift.....<>>><flysandguides.comVisit my blog
Micheal Kyle Posted January 27, 2007 Posted January 27, 2007 Just bring your tools and vice. I alot of the stuff if you have something that you want to tie with you can bring it up too. I will be here all day on Monday so come up if you have the time. Michael To Know People Is To Know Thier Ways!
Members finefisherman Posted February 10, 2007 Members Posted February 10, 2007 The first pattern you made works really well on crappie with sink tip, but you have to make them a lot smaller. Just thought I tell you.
Members thegundog.com Posted February 10, 2007 Members Posted February 10, 2007 Quick question.. I was down there last weekend on a trip with my former best friend which turned out to be a little bit of a disaster due to an alleged boat reservation miscommunication...But that is a another story. While I was down there, I stopped off at a "local" fly shop and spent an outrageous amount of money on fly tying material. One thing that I didnt get was Arctic fox for the shad pattern. Now, since I am a pro dog trainer, and foxes are related to dogs,..could I borrow some hair from one of our white dogs, or does it have to be Arctic Fox??? If so, why? Dog runner
Members thegundog.com Posted February 15, 2007 Members Posted February 15, 2007 Jeremy, I got your last critique on my first attempt at a shad pattern. After buying a lot of material at the fly shop I noticed that there was not a lot of difference in the material that I had bought earlier. I will send you a picture of my second attempt at a shad pattern. Let me know what you think. thanks. Dog runner.
Jeremy Hunt Posted February 15, 2007 Posted February 15, 2007 Quick question.. I was down there last weekend on a trip with my former best friend which turned out to be a little bit of a disaster due to an alleged boat reservation miscommunication...But that is a another story. While I was down there, I stopped off at a "local" fly shop and spent an outrageous amount of money on fly tying material. One thing that I didnt get was Arctic fox for the shad pattern. Now, since I am a pro dog trainer, and foxes are related to dogs,..could I borrow some hair from one of our white dogs, or does it have to be Arctic Fox??? If so, why? Dog runner You can use what you want. The only thing you need to think about is the action of the tail. I think that's the important thing. I would use marabou before I used dog unless it's really soft. Artic fox is some of the best stuff for tying tails. It moves great and when you blend the wing-n-flash it looks great together. Oh, I got your e-mail, I will respond to it later. I'm redoing my site right now so I'm barried in that. I have a blog page on there as well if you ever want to ask me a quick question. Go check it out and tell me what you think. Accept the drift.....<>>><flysandguides.comVisit my blog
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