gonefishin Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 Plastic would be ok. A person needs something durable and light to use to build them. Inexpensive would be a big plus. I would rather be fishin'. "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." Benjamin Franklin, 1759
duckydoty Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 The next great advance after birch bark was canvas and paint. duckydoty A Little Rain Won't Hurt Them Fish.....They're Already Wet!! Visit my website at.. Ozark Trout Runners
Crippled Caddis Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 Ducky, Look in on Ol' Sparkey's Forum on Southern Paddler at: <http://www.neilbank.com/phpBB2/> Tell 'em Tom @ Buzzard Bluff sent you. Then duck.;o) They're an irreverent bunch of misfits and it's hard to get a straight answer outta them sometime unless you ask it on the 'Serious Boatbuilding Question' section. There is a LOT of freely shared expertise on there from experienced builders and a few designers. Chuck, the owner, is pretty much THE expert on building plywood pirogues. Just don't go paddling with him----he's also the 'Rainmaker'. And whatever you do don't take Bearridge seriously---after all he's a recently retired attorney.( "You need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our founding fathers used in their struggle for independence." ---Charles Austin Beard
Terry Beeson Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 Not to really make light of Wayne's response of "good ol' plastic," but that phrase does open up a whole area. There is a plethora of new plastics and composites out there some of which would be well worth looking into for building a canoe. The problem is that most canoes on the market are molded one piece units and unless you have a mold and some sort of machine to introduce the plastic in a molten state to the mold, you are SOL. Using sheets introduces the problem of seams and preventing leakage. Careful work and good epoxy will do the trick. But reliability in the long run comes in to question. One avenue you might consider would be using the materials used in the home built aircraft industry. Light weight and durable. I think this would make a good canoe. It would be akin to Duckydoty's idea of canvas and paint only on a more advanced technology plane. OK... Technical brain off for a while... TIGHT LINES, YA'LL "There he stands, draped in more equipment than a telephone lineman, trying to outwit an organism with a brain no bigger than a breadcrumb, and getting licked in the process." - Paul O’Neil
duckydoty Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 Quick! somebody get a bucket of water and put that fire out! Terry's been thinkin duckydoty A Little Rain Won't Hurt Them Fish.....They're Already Wet!! Visit my website at.. Ozark Trout Runners
Terry Beeson Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 Yeah... and in another post, too!!... darn... now my BRAIN HURTS!!!!!!! TIGHT LINES, YA'LL "There he stands, draped in more equipment than a telephone lineman, trying to outwit an organism with a brain no bigger than a breadcrumb, and getting licked in the process." - Paul O’Neil
Crippled Caddis Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 <darn... now my BRAIN HURTS!!!> Must be like those phantom pains that amputees suffer in missing limbs. "You need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our founding fathers used in their struggle for independence." ---Charles Austin Beard
Crippled Caddis Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 Terry wrote: <One avenue you might consider would be using the materials used in the home built aircraft industry.> You gotta be more specific than that. Airplanes are built from everything from wood thru the most advanced composites. One of the favored techniques is fiberglass over foam and that has been used in boats also. So I'm thinking (yes---it does hurt) that forming the basic shape of the hull from the 1/4" foam insulation that is used under vinyl siding and glassing both sides might be a viable method. At least for less hazardous waters. "You need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our founding fathers used in their struggle for independence." ---Charles Austin Beard
Terry Beeson Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 You gotta be more specific than that. Airplanes are built from everything from wood thru the most advanced composites. One of the favored techniques is fiberglass over foam and that has been used in boats also. So I'm thinking (yes---it does hurt) that forming the basic shape of the hull from the 1/4" foam insulation that is used under vinyl siding and glassing both sides might be a viable method. At least for less hazardous waters. Phantom pains, huh? You should know... As far as specifics, you're right, Tom... There are a "bunch" of materials used and my objective would be to look at several of them to find a "good fit" for the canoe. I like the foam insulation (styrene) with a fabric (glass or other composite) cover idea. If you used the right cover material, I would say it would be good in about any water. Some of those planes are designed to take a lickin' and keep on tickin'... At least if you are building canoes, you won't have to have the FAA come in and inspect your work and OK it... HEY... here's an idea! A home built aircraft that you can land on the water, retract the wings, and fish/float. NO NEED FOR A SHUTTLE!!! TIGHT LINES, YA'LL "There he stands, draped in more equipment than a telephone lineman, trying to outwit an organism with a brain no bigger than a breadcrumb, and getting licked in the process." - Paul O’Neil
gonefishin Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 Those phantom pains must be a real pain huh Terry? Doncha just hate it when that happens. You guys are making my brain hurt reading your posts. Havent heard from you for a while CC. What have you been up to? Chaising the gals again? I would rather be fishin'. "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." Benjamin Franklin, 1759
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