Are you trespassing?

[Chief Grey Bear]

, "So, what kind of work do you do?" and I said, "I'm disabled. But I am the regional coordinator and founder of the Project Healing Waters Fly Fishing program in the Ozarks..."

If I may ask, what type of disablility do you have?

[Guest kevinkirk]

I know that Missouri has what the call English water law. Kansas is based on the 1868 Colorado Mining law. Different. Riparian law, like missouri states that whomever can get the water out of the stream first, can use it. Kansas says, that first to use it is first in line FOREVER to use it. So its seniority.

As for access. I am glad to hear you can use the streams over there. NOT IN KANSAS. I do know that. Only the Kansas River and the Arkansas are seen as navigatable streams. Of course the Ark is dry for over half the distance across the state now due to irrigation so there are questions about that. OUt west. farmers have torn down the dikes and put up center pivot irrigation circles across the river. farming the river itself. You walk up the river there and will walk into corn fields where the old trappers used to walk ....its funny and sad at the same time.

[catman70]

I know that Missouri has what the call English water law. Kansas is based on the 1868 Colorado Mining law.

I'm pretty sure that's why Jesse James burned Lawrence to the ground during the Civil War.

It's either that or he was just a big MU fan.

[Guest kevinkirk]

I thot it was John Brown who burned Lawrence? Or was it Cantrill. Or did they all start out together. My great great great was neighbor to jesse james so I guess that old missouri blood is calling me home.

[catman70]

It was when Jesse was with William Quantrell's pro-slavery "border ruffians" in the Kansas border wars. It wasn't Jesse by himself, but that's the most recognizable name.

[jefly77]

Does the "navigable" term apply to Crane Creek? The section just above the upper Wire Road access has a brand new private property sign in the middle of the creek, below the mean high water mark. Can I legally wade the creek through his land if I access it from the bridge or the MDC land?

Jefly

[creek wader]

Does the "navigable" term apply to Crane Creek? The section just above the upper Wire Road access has a brand new private property sign in the middle of the creek, below the mean high water mark. Can I legally wade the creek through his land if I access it from the bridge or the MDC land?

Jefly

Not to get off subject, but historians doubt if Jesse James was even in on the raid on Lawence. He would of only have been 16 at the time. Even if he was, he would of only had played a minor role. Although, Jesse always bragged about being there. His older brother, Frank, was there, however. Quantrell led the raid on Lawence. John Brown did his thing, long prior to the Civil War. He was on the opposite side of the fence, than the James and Quantrell. He was an abolishinist. His raid was at Harper's Ferry Armory, WV. Ironically, It was a Union Armory.

[jefly77]

Can somebody get back on topic and answer my question please.

Does the "navigable" term apply to Crane Creek? The section just above the upper Wire Road access has a brand new private property sign in the middle of the creek, below the mean high water mark. Can I legally wade the creek through his land if I access it from the bridge or the MDC land?

Jefly