Made in China, (Buyer Beware)

[Crippled Caddis]

skeeter wrote:

<The environmental concerns and regulations in this Country have made it financially beneficial coupled with the cost of labor to move manufacturing to the Communist dictatorship that is modern day China>

And NAFTA made it not only possible but irresistable. That little weasel Ross Perot told us exactly what would happen if NAFTA was adopted but the American electorate preferred to vote for Clinton and have NAFTA (among other Clintonian 'benefits') as a result.

<The Chicoms spy on us, steal our technology for national defense and manufacturing and we are truly "sleeping with the enemy".>

They didn't have to steal our technology----Clinton sold it to them in exchange for campaign contributions. And their political operatives were sleeping in the White House---for 'further considerations'. Not satisfied with stealing the White House furniture and silverware on exit the less principled of the duo now wants her turn at the trough.

Known on campus in her student days at Yale as 'Little Miss Communist' one can only muse on the possible results of such a Presidency.

[bojack]

our sociaty is such a use it till it breaks then buy another cheap one "THROW-AWAY" sociaty. it doesn't bother most people to replace a product that failed due to poor quality with another poor quality product. i'd rather do without than purchase something that will fail in a short period of time. just my outlook.

[Thom]

That Clinton Guy is real clever. I just looked at a picture on the net of him disguised as George Bush signing the NAFTA agreement in 1992 during George Bush's presidency.

I don't understand how China got rights to trade with us under the North American Trade Agreement signed by Mexico, Canada and the USA.

Yep Clinton is real clever. Got George to sign an agreement so he could get campaign contributions.

Google NAFTA AND LOOK IT UP.

I do agree that both parties Democrats and Republician are responsible for the exporting of our jobs under NAFTA.

If you check most of the China trade imbalance took place in the last 5 years.

We owe a large portion of our national debt to them also.

[Crippled Caddis]

You are 100% correct about NAFTA Thom! Mea Culpa! Perhaps I was thinking of GATT?

Edit:

Which grew out of actions by Reagan, Bush 1 and was finalized under Clinton and has now morphed into the World Trade Org.

[gonefishin]

You are right Google it but don't forget to read what was found. I very clearly remember Clintons first run for office. The one thing I favored him on was his stance on NAFTA of course as we all know that was short lived that was.

Anyway you are both right and both wrong. George Bush 1 was in favor of NAFTA and even though he signed the treaty he was unable overcome the opposition tto get it ratified. Bill Clinton ran his first campaign on NO NAFTA but as soon as he took office he immediately started supporting it, made a major agenda out of it and got it ratified. Look it up on Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_America...Trade_Agreement

History of the implementation

NAFTA Initialing Ceremony, October 1992. From left to right: (Standing) Mexican President Salinas, US President Bush, Canadian Prime Minister Mulroney, (Seated) Jaime Serra Puche, Carla Hills, Michael Wilson. Source: George Bush Presidential Library and Museum

NAFTA Initialing Ceremony, October 1992. From left to right: (Standing) Mexican President Salinas, US President Bush, Canadian Prime Minister Mulroney, (Seated) Jaime Serra Puche, Carla Hills, Michael Wilson. Source: George Bush Presidential Library and Museum

The agreement was initially pursued by conservative governments in the United States and Canada supportive of free trade, led by Canadian Prime Minister Brian Mulroney, U.S. President George H. W. Bush, and the Mexican President Carlos Salinas de Gortari. The three-nation NAFTA was signed on 17 December 1992, pending its ratification by the legislatures of the three countries. There was considerable opposition in all three countries, but in the United States it was able to secure passage after Bill Clinton made its passage a major legislative initiative in 1993.

[Crippled Caddis]

Thanks gf! If I just sit down, shut up and listen I learn something new every day.;o) CC

[NoLuck]

I think a lot of this CHEAP mentality can be attributed to the WAL-Martization of today's market.The sad thing though is that if it wasn't for a competitive market.... who would regulate the prices?

Food for thought...........

[jcoberley]

Cheep is better??? Most of the time NOT.

[gonefishin]

I think a lot of this CHEAP mentality can be attributed to the WAL-Martization of today's market.The sad thing though is that if it wasn't for a competitive market.... who would regulate the prices?

Food for thought...........

I think you are exactly correct NoLuck.

[Thom]

I think the most relevent statement in my previous comment about NAFTA is that if we want to assess blame it falls on both sides of the aisle.

GW Bush signed it originally and the Clinton adminiatration which started with a dem congress and then switched to Republician obsessed with impeaching the president bought into it 100%. The only opposition was from staunch conservatives who finally gave in to political pressure of electing the current Bush which required the Mexican American vote from key states such as Florida which was the deciding vote to elect a president that lost the popular vote by 500000 votes.

Another attempt to bail out Mexico from economic disaster. Unfortunately Mexico was and still is on the take side of the NAFTA agreement. I think it goes without saying who is on the give side of it. The good ole USA.

I can speak concerning the automobile business which I was in for 38 years. The vehicles that are made in Mexico at sub standard wages, no benefits and no job security are produced at a mimumum of 40% less than in the US. They are sold for the same price or higher as those produced in the US. Where is the profit going. To the folks who orginallly gave you cheap low quality cars and Pearl Harbor. They stole our technology and Research and developement.

Our government workers, civil servants, and school parkng lots are filled with their cars. I wonder who will pay the wages of those above mentioned when there are no jobs left in the USA paying more than $ 8.00 an hour.

They lied to our negotiators in Washington while their planes were circleing Hawaii and they continue to perpretrate the quality myth which is one of the biggest lies of the 21st century. It may have been true back in the 60 and early 70's but no more.