New Park on the Current River

[jdmidwest]

I just read this on STL Todays website. MDC is handing over land aquired to DNR for a new State Park on the Current River.

Have fun with this one.......

New State Park, STL Today

[Gavin]

Interesting...Last I heard, MDC wanted to tear down the old structure and put up something new. Guess that didnt work out and they "gave it" to DNR.

I also hear that NPS is planning to put in an access at Flying W.

Not sure about either initiative.

[Gavin]

http://www.dnr.mo.gov/newsrel/nr07_297.htm

Info on the transfer of the Presley Center...sounds like a good deal but I hope they dont make it a new river access.

[brownieman]

Interesting jd and gavin...yes the ONSR has plans to change and give Flying W a make over so to speak from what I have read.

The following is from an article I read concerning Flying W... was sent to me by a friend because he knows I have a genuine concern for our states aquatic resources.

Reads as follows;

"This is a part of our efforts to help make the Ozark National Scenic Riverways a family-friendly place to visit," said Park Superintendent Noel Poe. "Flying W area has been a site for a lot of party activity at the bluff. these proposed changes will help better control deviant behavior there."

Within this article they stated they were open for comments and suggestions from the public.

IMO this is the facade too often thrown up to make us feel our opinion matters. In my opinion they will analyze, create special task forces, bring in the experts in this field, meet, study and competely over complicate what is in essense a relatively simple matter. So goes our tax dollars.

I sent my comments concerning this matter and IMO they were probably filed in the old round file cabinet, lol.

jd...concerning the land transfer on the current I have a little knowledge of the land in question.

As the article from the Associated Press, which jd gave a link to, before the MDC purchased this trac it was a corporate retreat enjoyed by Alton Club members which consisted of a box company from Illinois.

IMO was kind of a playground for the rich and famous within the company.

Read that link given by jd from the press and you can tell what the place consisted of.

Upon the purchase by the MDC in "the mid-1990s it's been used for a teacher training in conservation and other workshops, but is was generally not open to the public"...so this article states.

The end product was the Jerry Presley Center of Learning and Education ??...not sure that is the correct name but will be close if one wants to check.

IMO this was something purchased with good intent to better educate teachers and such about environmental issues while at the same time putting a Director / Ex-Director of the MDCs name ( being Jerry Presely) on a sign under such a pretense. I AM NOT downing the intent and purpose of this action...the intent was good. but from the AP article look at the enemities that went along with the total package...what a perfect little set up, ya know.

IMO there are several projects the MDC has worked into their budget resulting in huge money pits...primarily due to an influential name or position within the dept. and concerning matters such as these the cost is irrelavent to acheive the desired facility / results.

I'm not jumping on any band wagon here, nor is my opinion intended to influence anyone.

These are just my opinions...we all are entitled to that and if we differ...well...that's a good thing because that is how it is...we all have the right to dis-agree...but please do so in a constructive manner.

Each of you can conclude your own opinions on the information available to you depending on how deep you want to dig...it works for me, don't really know of any other way.

I make every effort possible to not speak out of ignorance and beleive me...thats difficult for my simple self, lol

brownieman ( CC, you may use bm to abbreviate my name if you like...I thought about that and found it entertaining being a natural function, lol).

Sorry to all for the lengthy post...rambling once again...

[Gavin]

http://parkplanning.nps.gov/document.cfm?p...ocumentID=19295

Flying W plans