"Black Salty"

[brownieman]

Hey SK,

sonds like they work ok...where did you order yours from?

post back up come your next trip, be curious if they stay alive as well as advertised especially after having a hook in em...that should tell the tale.

good luck and thanks

bm

[Samkam1]

http://www.andersonminnows.com/

Will post our results! Planning on going tuesday and thursday..so I will let you know. The bait have been in the tank since Friday. So we will see!

SK

[bowfin47]

Oh boy, bait fishermen who don't want to "hassle" with native baitfish get to introduce another exotic into the ecosystem. Not just their local ecosystem's waters, but mine.... 'cuz your waters drain down here to Louisiana. Thanks a lot fellows!

"most hybrids have very low reproductive capability" Yeah right, and hybrid white amur were not supposed to reproduce. So people put them in ponds and lakes across the midwest (It was illegal in Louisiana.), and now I can take you to places down here that are full of white amur - of all sizes, but those once beautiful clear waters are now always muddy!

"if an adult is small the only eco-system impact i could see would be the consumption of various fish spawns and planktons and other small forages...as for them they would become forage themselves for larger species." Well, zebra mussels are small, but their impact is huge!

"In the lakes that we fish I can't see a problem with a minnow that gets up to a max 8 inches being much of a nuisance fish" ..."I never have really worried about minnows that I use becoming a nusiance...but who knows." WHO KNOWS!!! darn, it's nice to know that YOU cann't see much of a problem, and I'm glad to know that your not worried! so "What the hell".

How many examples do you (i.e the larger group of you) have to see, before you understand that random introductions of exotics are rarely ever good for the native species? Maybe you've heard of some of these: rock slim, hydrilla, johnson grass, kudzo, all species of carp, English sparrows, starlings, water hyacinths, tallow trees, pepper trees, Asian Tiger Mosquitoes, New Zealand Mud Snails and on and on... WHO KNOWS???? Oh, just ask the folks who like to fish Yellowstone Lake what fish introductions have done to their native cutthroats....

By the way, just this morning the local newspaper reported that Africanized Honey Bees have been found in south Louisiana - http://www.2theadvocate.com/news/9436881.h...owAll=y&c=y

So, it's only a matter of time until they get up to your neighborhood. When they do, please remember the idiot that brought them into BRAZIL. I guess he said "who knows!"

You'd think that ALL fishermen would see the risk that comes with introducting flora and fauna to ecosystems... and would refuse to be a party such introductions, but "who knows".....

Oh well, I'll be down in New Orleans this weekend, so I think I'll take my nephew out fly fishing on some of the bayous. But we cann't go catch bluegills or other native sunfish. Why? Because we'll have to fish for cichlids, 'cuz some idiot pet store owner thought that it would be neat to have cichlids in the local waters down there... (i.e. "Texas Cichlids" became established in the drainage canals of suburban New Orleans where they have since nearly eradicated competing Centrarchid (Sunfish, or colloquially, "Perch" "- http://www.aquahobby.com/gallery/e_bluec.php).

Well, I think that I'll go back to "shaddows" and won't bother you guys again for a while, but who knows?

Oh and good luck with those Black Salties, I hope ya' catch a bunch of fish....

Bowfin47

[Samkam1]

Couldn't get out to beaver tuesday morning.....dang work!!

We did make it out on thursday morning from 5-9...boated 4 fish-- an 8 lb and a 15 lb striper, as well as two hybrids one went 5 and one went 7 lbs. We had a couple really nice fish get off, one pulled line until it broke and the other wasn't hooked well and got off. We also had quite a lot of short strikes.

Heading out saturday and sunday mornings....shall let you kow how we do!!!

SK

[brownieman]

SK,

I'm just curious if the controversial saltys are as hardy as they say they are ?

bm

[Quillback]

I saw in the Arkansas rule proposals that they have a proposal to ban the use of "Non-native" fish for bait.

[Samkam1]

Brownie -- they are very hardy...still have 40+ in the bait tank from last Friday. Have changed the water out a few times and they stay as frisky as ever.

Those rascals are born and bred in Arkansas....doesn't that make them "native"? Im not sure we will use them too much again....I think the stripers prefer the "brood minnows" that we have been using (which you can also buy from IF Anderson farms) because they are long and slender and they can slurp them down easier. The salties look alot like gold fish...just really dark. They work ok...but I think they may work better for catfish and bass than they have for the stripers.

Have a great weekend guys...go catch some fish!!!

SK