Trav Posted December 22, 2007 Posted December 22, 2007 This is always an interesting topic "May success follow your every cast." - Trav P. Johnson
Amish Bill Posted December 22, 2007 Posted December 22, 2007 leave it the way it is. "Life's too short to fish with a dead minner..."
Bman Posted December 22, 2007 Posted December 22, 2007 I would keep it the way it is with the following exceptions: 1.Single hook in the RESTRICTED area,dropper rigs allowed.Just no treble hooks. 2.All other artificial lures below,no bait. The only good line is a tight line
Daddy Carp Posted December 22, 2007 Posted December 22, 2007 Leave things the way they are. There are a lot of restrictions on the lake now on certain things that are unnecessary and none where there should be. The gov. needs to pay more attention to the people's actions & equipment who use the lakes and less on trying to manage Mother Nature. I've yet to see where they have not screwed things up trying to micro-manage game sizes and quantity. IE: Turkeys in Kansas - They brought in turkeys and planted them state wide, they over populated and upset the quail populations and became a farming nuisance. So then the state started bring in more bobcats to eat the turkeys - BAD IDEA, as the Bobs started eating the quail and pheasants along with small farm animals. They left the turkeys alone because they did not need to fight a 30-35# bird with spurs when quail and pheasant were so easy. Hence I understand that they are now bringing in more cougars to thin out the deer populations. What will THEY decide to eat rather than chase a very fast animal down? NOPE, Keep the GOV. out of the water! Let them tend to the people on top of the water. If they did a better job on those regulations, I would not have been almost swamped in a 16' Lowe jon yesterday in the shallow just above Lilley's by some old man with 2 passengers running 1/3 throttle so as to create max wake and comming within 15-20' of myself and several other boats. He was in a white deck boat (sun-tracker) I believe. No call for that at all. I don't travel alone and I thought Mr. Smith or Mr. Wesson was going to yell at him. I convinced them it wasn't necessary. The next guy may not be as convincing with them as I was and the "Ole Fool" will be fishing his deck boat off the bottom of the lake looking like swiss-cheese! Oh well, back to pleasant things, time to go fishing again. God Bless & have a good one........D.C.
Root Admin Phil Lilley Posted December 22, 2007 Root Admin Posted December 22, 2007 MDC is bringing back creel surveys which means they're going to start asking questions of anglers- not just how many fish are you catching but other questions (possibly) like may be this species question (doubtful but you get my point). They created the trophy area as a result of surveys in the past... they may tweak the system a little in the future. But if I would add anything to the list, I'd change the slot in the trophy area to 14 to 24 inches on rainbows and raise the brown limit lakewide to 24 inches. Also: Catch and release on browns from Fall Creek up from September 1 through December 1. I'd also put a 15 inch limit on bass lakewide. And a 9 inch limit on crappie, limit 15 instead of 30.
crappiefisherman Posted December 22, 2007 Posted December 22, 2007 I agree on the crappie limit.It would be great if taney was a large crappie producing lake.Im just uphill from it and id be able to utilize a lake that I rarely visit. [ [
Daddy Carp Posted December 22, 2007 Posted December 22, 2007 Why create a big aquarium out of a perfectly good fishing lake? If the Brownies all swim upstream and not down, and the Bows "work" their way upstream dosen't this create a traffic jam! With all the catch and put back I would think that the upper end is getting pretty crowded. At a stock rate of 10,000 browns per year and all the rainbows stocked, all headed to the dam. If they are not thinned out as intended, won't they be unhappy fish and argue and fight all the time over food and O2? I personally think that slot limits are a foolish waste of time on a fish that will not spawn and reproduce. Why worry about the best brood size? Dah! I can see size limits in order to give smaller fish a chance to grow and become trophies. The size and quantity limits make better size and quality fish available to the angler. If dinner is all an angler wants, he can buy it cheaper at country mart than paying for a fishing trip and equipment. With that kind of investment, he needs quality fish not to mention quality fun. Nope, slots are to protect the brooders and some one had their head in the wrong place when they set them on these trout. Spawing stream, without a doubt, Taneycomo, useless. The number of rainbow spawn doesn't even register. These are not BASS or Crappies! The Browns & Bows increase their numbers based on the numbers stocked. At a stock rate of 10,000 per year, probably 400 to 500 browns over 20" caught per year and 1/2 of those released does not thin out the population much. The break-even figure is 5,000 fish caught and "0"released, in a year, just to stay at a "status quoa" on the fish population at present. Put the pencil to it! Don't have all the answers, for sure, only a personal perspective based on 60 yrs. exp. and common sense. I am always for bigger healther fish in greater numbers. Just don't want the lake to become "Lake China" where 20 fish fight over 1 grain of rice. I would like to see it more like Bennett Springs or the natural streams where you better be skilled or you won't catch fish. The sport is not called "CATCHING", it is called "FISHING". When I hear so many fishermen talking of catching 15-25 troutin 5-8hrs on the water using every type & color bait sold.....it tell me you don't have to "angle" for them, just throw an empty hook and one will run into it. This means that they are either overly hungry or over-populated of both. Fun, but not the intended sport. Talk to some Irish or European trout fishermen and ask what they expect to catch per day. And these guys are some of the devoted fly fishermen in the world and have been since before we were a country. Goc Bless.....D.C.
Greg Posted December 22, 2007 Posted December 22, 2007 I really like Phil's idea of widening the slot for rainbows slightly at the upper end and also increasing the minimum brown trout length to 24 or 25". Otherwise - I think think it would be best to leave it alone. Greg "My biggest worry is that my wife (when I'm dead) will sell my fishing gear for what I said I paid for it" - Koos Brandt Greg Mitchell
crappiefisherman Posted December 22, 2007 Posted December 22, 2007 Dont you think it would be nice to have a lake that would sustain its population with natural reproduction instead of just being used as a fishbowl as you stated?I would like to see a lot of more fishing oportunities, but id also like to see peace on earth and a victoria secret fashion model living on my street,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but [ [
jscheetz Posted December 22, 2007 Posted December 22, 2007 Chiming in with my broken record request - Phil is right - a moratorium on Browns in the fall. It is too easy to take the big browns in the fall and while that is nice for catching them - a lot of people take them home - and you can put pencil to paper all you want but when you take a 10 pound fish out of the lake that fish is GONE - that's the math on that one - and the common sense I believe. Daddy - you said I would like to see it more like Bennett Springs or the natural streams where you better be skilled or you won't catch fish. ???? Skilled??? Is that the same Bennett Springs I go to where you got guys sitting in Lazy Boy lawn chairs with a beer helmet on and a couple of straws running to their mouths and a couple of poles out drownin crawlers til they catch their limit??? I mean lets face it - when you have a whistle blow to tell you when it's OK to pull out your limit, we're not exactly talking trying to catch a couple of wild trout in the Scottish highlands. Of course Daddy you are right on the money when talking about them doing a better job managing the people - as has been said ad nauseam - if they would just enforce the rules there are now........ Peace on earth sounds good - think the VS model would probably be a bad idea in the long run - JS "We are living in the midst of a Creation that is mostly mysterious - that even when visible, is never fully imaginable". -Wendell Berry-
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