Root Admin Phil Lilley Posted November 21, 2005 Root Admin Share Posted November 21, 2005 Fished a bit this morning with Randy Waggoner- he drove down yesterday from KC for a short fishing trip. I didn't get to the dam till 8 am and quit at 9:30. He was already to #2 outlet all by himself which surprised me. They were running one unit- just a little fish water- and the trout were packed up in the shoot- amazing. He told me a guy had been fishing there but was way downstream landing a big trout he had hooked. Randy thought it was a brown but it turned up to be a rainbow - over 13 pounds. Saw the trout an hour later when the angler brought it back up. He said he tried to revive it to no avail. Caught it on a scud Randy had given him. I didn't want to take a pic of the trout closeup... it was real bloody and I knew the pic here wouldn't have gone over too well. Our DO is very low and ask I told Randy, if you hook a big fish on 6x or even 5x and fight it to the net, chances are you're going to kill it. Well, I fished in the outlet - yes I did - for about 15 minutes. I hooked may be 10 trout using a #18 brown scud, 5x tippet under an indicator 18 inches. I didn't drag it at all, letting it drift and not setting the hook everytime it stopped. I only foul-hooked one trout- it help that they were feeding wildly. I moved out when it started to get crowded. Water started dropping and I tried a couple of things- drifting a scud well below the outlet and stripping a crackleback... caught one on the crackleback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOBass Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 Fished a bit this morning with Randy Waggoner- he drove down yesterday from KC for a short fishing trip. I didn't get to the dam till 8 am and quit at 9:30. He was already to #2 outlet all by himself which surprised me. They were running one unit- just a little fish water- and the trout were packed up in the shoot- amazing. He told me a guy had been fishing there but was way downstream landing a big trout he had hooked. Randy thought it was a brown but it turned up to be a rainbow - over 13 pounds. Saw the trout an hour later when the angler brought it back up. He said he tried to revive it to no avail. Caught it on a scud Randy had given him. I didn't want to take a pic of the trout closeup... it was real bloody and I knew the pic here wouldn't have gone over too well. Our DO is very low and ask I told Randy, if you hook a big fish on 6x or even 5x and fight it to the net, chances are you're going to kill it. Well, I fished in the outlet - yes I did - for about 15 minutes. I hooked may be 10 trout using a #18 brown scud, 5x tippet under an indicator 18 inches. I didn't drag it at all, letting it drift and not setting the hook everytime it stopped. I only foul-hooked one trout- it help that they were feeding wildly. I moved out when it started to get crowded. Water started dropping and I tried a couple of things- drifting a scud well below the outlet and stripping a crackleback... caught one on the crackleback. I tried stripping a crackle back for the first time this weekend and it was interesting. I had mostly drifted scuds or drys and when the fish hit I was a little shocked. I'll be trying that again. It was interesting to read you comment about not setting the hook when the indicator stopped and I have gone to this also when fishing near any of the outlets. I hate foul hooking fish and I have resigned myself to missing a few to make sure the ones I stick are in the mouth. That is one nice fish in the picture. I have to admit that if I got a good fish I would probably keep it unless it was kicking strong when I put the net on it. I try to put the screws to the fish and get them in and off the hook as quick as possible so they have the best chance possible. Smoked trout is top notch though and I am not going to let a fish go to waste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 If the guy tried and put his hearts effort into reviving that fish then there is nothing to hate him about. My big trout died on me becuase I never could get her revived after I caught her. It sucks to know you caught it and that was its last fight, but there are more in there thanks to the awesome trout fishery taney has Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin admin Posted November 22, 2005 Root Admin Share Posted November 22, 2005 He worked very hard to revive it... no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 Well...I sorry to see a fish like that gone!! But at least he knew it was going to make it... and didnt leave it dead on the bottom.. wonder if hes going to mount it or try to eat it?? http://www.taneycomonights.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lostsurfer311 Posted November 22, 2005 Members Share Posted November 22, 2005 No doubt that is a nice fish. What gets me is his net, i know i might be alittle blunt here but if you are goign to honestly catch and release fish and use a net buy a net that is made for that porpuse and not buy a nylon net that you use to land warmwater species with. Yeah the former costs alittle more but hey if it helps you practice what you preach then go for it. now i am going to get off my soap box and leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin Phil Lilley Posted November 22, 2005 Author Root Admin Share Posted November 22, 2005 Randy was helping the guy out yesterday morning- he appeared to be a beginner fly fisher. He gave him a scud and showed him how to mend the line. Randy said he was surprised he kept the fish on as long as he did, not to mention land it. He landed it well below outlet #3 with the help of a couple of anglers. So... not to take up for the guy and the net- it's not the net you want to use for sure!!! But it's something most people wouldn't think about until it's pointed out to him. To be honest, I didn't notice the net even in the pic- I was looking at the bloodied, fat rainbow. And standing on soap boxes is a practice that is more than welcomed here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne SW/MO Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 Saw the trout an hour later when the angler brought it back up. He said he tried to revive it to no avail. Well, I suppose, but I see he was fortunate that he happened to have a stringer with him. I know that trying to educate everyone is impossible, but it doesn't keep me from wishing. When I hook a nice fish and feel uncomfortable about the conditions, I put a lot of pressure on them and they don't fight a long time, one way or another. Today's release is tomorrows gift to another fisherman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John Smoot Posted November 23, 2005 Members Share Posted November 23, 2005 Well, I suppose, but I see he was fortunate that he happened to have a stringer with him. I know that trying to educate everyone is impossible, but it doesn't keep me from wishing. When I hook a nice fish and feel uncomfortable about the conditions, I put a lot of pressure on them and they don't fight a long time, one way or another. Agee! I've seen many fish played completely out. You don't have to do it that way. If it's a true hog like the 1 in the pic, ask someone to help and net him fast (relative term). Keeps the fish alive. If I'm in a position where I see someone who's likely new to this, simply ask him if he'd like some help. Seems neighborly enough to me. Oh, yeah...I carry a C&R net that's rubber coated...more $$$ but easy on the fish. Kinda sad another big momma headed for the frying pan, especially when the 12 inchers are every bit as good eatin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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