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Trav,

I am just trying to get everyone to move down Lake.... :P

Phil brought up a good point..an aging lake. I surmise the same thing is happening with Norfork lake being the first in the chain of dams and impoundments I do believe it's showing sides of dying in that riparian sprawl, along with constant development, the pumping of sewage and other chemicals from agriculture runoff have made it into a toxic soup. When generation occurs that mixture is being sucked from the bottom of the lake and distributed into the Norfork River where over the past few years you are seeing less and less trophy size fish and fewer numbers overall. I think John Berry and Crippled Caddis likely would back me up on this. The entire chain of lakes and rivers I am afraid are destined for the same thing unless something is done to slow or stop the progression.

I know this sounds very pessimistic, but I do believe its happening.

Dano

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[Phil brought up a good point..an aging lake. I surmise the same thing is happening with Norfork lake being the first in the chain of dams and impoundments I do believe it's showing sides of dying---with constant development, the pumping of sewage and other chemicals from agriculture runoff have made it into a toxic soup.--The entire chain of lakes and rivers I am afraid are destined for the same thing unless something is done to slow or stop the progression. I know this sounds very pessimistic, but I do believe its happening.>

Dano is correct IMO. Those who ignore the basic fact that reservoirs are settling basins insofar as their effect on streamflow is concerned are in for great disappointments. CC

"You need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our founding fathers used in their struggle for independence." ---Charles Austin Beard

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Trav,

I don't have the experience that you have when it comes to fishing lower taney, having just moved to springfield three years ago it has not been untill then that I began to fish taney. In the three years I have fished the lake it has been awesome. The lake holds numbers of largemouth and several I have caught go well over 5 and I have seen some BIG fish on their beds. As for the browns eating everything, almost all species that I catch on taney seem to be healthy. Taney offers great diversity and oppertunities to catch a trophy of several species. If you want walleye go to BS, Stockton, Greers Ferry, and the same goes with any species. As far as forage fish like shad declining, it may be due to the water quality not over predation.

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I dont think your pessimistic Dano, Just stating the reality. We all know reality bites.

Ryan, Your right, Taney is a great fishery. Still doesnt change the fact that its not as good as it used to be. But, niether is the human race for that sake.

I used to hear tales of the "good ol days" from my late Gramps and his descriptions always failed to mention that he also lived through the depression, a world war and a dust bowl that financially destroyed his family. As Ryan pointed out to us, that instead of dwelling on what is lost, we should be looking at what we have left.

To steal a title from a bleeding heart liberal (whom I detest), Al Gore hit the nail on the head with his "Inconvenient Truth".

Haha, Cant believe I just validated that guy.

I suppose I could resubmit my rational to kill the parasites that are destroying this planet but I really dont feel like doing all that typing again. Wink

I will ask this though. Who has the "special" kool-aid? And do you have enough for everyone? Haha

"May success follow your every cast." - Trav P. Johnson

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IMO mankinds attempt to control or interveen on mother nature generally have negative results no matter how well thought out things are.

Money and the survival of our species seems to take presidence above all else...too often little regard is shown for the very things that support our existence.

Now the trend is GREEN...to little too late??, time will tell.

IMO it's a shame but we have become our own worst enemy...fairly obvious to this simple old country boy.

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This sounds like the old " Things aint like they used to be". To me that is what makes Taney so much fun to fish. You never know what the conditions will be untill you get on the water. This is what fishing is all about, adapting to the conditions and mood of the fish. Stop complaining and try something new to catch fish. Nothing stays the same. Everything changes.

Jeff Alley

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Change is usually bad in my book. Is anybody else comfortable with loosing thier old school to trek on new aspects?

"May success follow your every cast." - Trav P. Johnson

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Everybody has "the good ole days" how Table Rock, Taneycomo, Bull Shoals and where I grew up Toledo Bend used to be. I enjoyed those days and regret that they will not return as the same on these lakes but I have learned to adapt to new techniques and in effect new lakes as they age. This has not at all affected my want of being on the water every possible minute I can be there. Just my opinion.

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I hear that. As much as I like routine the changes cant stop the drive.

"May success follow your every cast." - Trav P. Johnson

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