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Now imagine the looks if you're trying to get a fish for dinner, and break out a nightcrawler. The horror! The fish in that river see very few large baits presented well, and respond as you would expect a large predator to. October is a fun month. 😉

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I’d also note- we’ve started catching the silver redhorse again in the upper river. They were pretty much gone for about 20 years or so, so it’s refreshing to see them back. Channel catfish are doing pretty well again, too. Haven’t seen any gigged gamefish (living, dead, or filleted carcasses) in a long time, and the smallmouth are more prevalent than you might think- even a barely perceptible current is enough for them if they have deep water and shaded cover- boulders, timber, etc. I seem to find more smallmouth around boulders, and spots around tree trunks. Spots are healthy, and make really good fillets- especially at 12x day. Lots of fun on chartreuse mini buzzbaits.

Love your trip reports. Grew up fishing that river from a canoe, and the biggest day-to-day factor I’ve noticed is fishing outside of the noon-4pm window. The biggest year-to-year factor I’ve noticed is how high and muddy it stays through the prior gigging season.

To answer the original question- Reddit is making some very unpopular moves, and a lot of folks are abandoning the platform. Which means more time for other online distractions. Like OAF, for example.

It felt good to be back in these hills. Trying to figure out the photo size limit to add some more interesting stuff.

Sounds about right- everything changing over to stay profitable. Fescue and no food or cover.

It really is, if you have no restrictions on what you're doing with the land. Unfortunately, we need to mostly keep this as semi-productive hay pasture, mowing once a year. I don't think burning is an option, due to proximity of houses to the fields. We're trying to delay mowing the hay until after the early breeding season (mid-June), so the warm-season grasses can get large enough to be decent hay and the quail have time to hatch and escape farm equipment. I'm trying to put together a plan of edge-feathering that would provide enough cover areas with brushy undergrowth to maintain habitat through that mowed period. I'd also like to leave unmowed borders along the brush patches in the pasture, plus maybe let the waterways grow up every couple of years. BUT- I think the area could highly benefit from some nitrogen-fixing plants added to the mix, some taller native bunch-grasses, and just a little better diversity overall. I know this is possible, because the best quail populations ever were in the 1950s- so there's a way to have both hay and quail. I'm currently trying to figure out the best, cheapest, and easiest way to meet that goal. From what I've learned, tame quail just feed hawks and coyotes. There are wild quail in the area, and I'd like to encourage them to colonize this property and give them the right ingredients to establish a few coveys.

Looking for suggestions from any quail fanatics on how to improve what I would call "nearly depleted hay ground" to hold a few coveys of quail. We're looking to improve some mixed hay pasture/timber land in the Union Breaks geographical region. There's a few quail running around the area in the spring, but we've only seen 1 on the property itself. We mostly hunt deer there right now, but we'd love to see more quail and rabbits on the place. Photos below are the 100+/- acre parcel map outlined in red, and a photo of the north pasture. Pastures get mowed/hayed once a year, typically June. Creek runs east-west through the center, hills sloping up to north and southwest. We have a couple thicker brush patches in the north pasture, and are looking at which trees to drop to feather the edges. Pastures are mostly little bluestem, maybe a bit of clover, and god only know what else (photo below). The SW pasture is patchy/barren on a hillside. SE pastures are kinda flat, mixed material. Minimal fescue. Questions: 1. What seed could we overseed/broadcast spread in February during a freeze/thaw cycle that would germinate and improve the habitat? Can't be a problem for hay production. 1.a Grass, legume, forbs/wildflowers/other broadleafs? Hoping for something native. 2. What food plots could we plant that would benefit both deer & quail? 3. Any suggestions for planting strips broomcorn/sorghum (visual cover + food)? Want to break up the visibility of the place from the road, provide some visual cover for walking to deer stands, and add a bit of winter food for wildlife. 4. Suggestions for a biologist or other pro that might have some better suggestions? MDC, Quail Unlimited, etc?

Any luck catching that drum?

Drum are delicious, but require a different approach to cooking since anything over 1.5# or so gets rubbery- or just plain tough. If you want it fried, then slice it thin against the grain into chips or nuggets. DO NOT OVERCOOK. But it's fantastic on the grill, especially with blackened redfish seasoning- holds up really well on the grates. I've boiled it like shrimp, and it's good, but there's better. Made into a creole/stew with tomatoes, peppers, onion & garlic is pretty tasty. Braised low & slow in the oven with butter and onions is to die for. It's a shame so many people fry whole fillets and then assume it's no good to eat since it got tough. Treat it right, and you'll never throw another one back. Edit- I forgot to add, that in a side-by-side taste test of fried crappie, big bluegill, 3 species of catfish, drum, and white bass- the drum nuggets were always the first to disappear. Always.

The Pitzen knot is probably my favorite, since it's easy to tie, incredibly strong, and doesn't waste much line. But I had a 50% failure rate when I pull tight on fluoro- the knots that held were still fantastic, but half of them didn't hold. Enter the double Pitzen, courtesy of Shaw Grigsby. Loop of line through the eye, pull up and pinch another loop at the top and wrap three twists down towards the hook, put the first loop up through the second loop, wet, pull tight, cinch down, trim tags. It's unbelievable, and it's a lot easier than a Palomar, especially on big baits. And if you leave enough tag, it works great for drop shotting, too- just pass the single tag through the eye of the hook, add a weight.

Several years ago, I was going to college in Rolla and fly fishing the area regularly. I met a gentleman on the Current River, and we chatted for quite a while as we crossed paths. On my way out, something told me to take a photo of him in the river. I've always liked the photo, but even more- I've respected the man, as one of the local conservation areas I frequented back then bears his name. I recently found the photo on my phone, and thought I should share it. I edited it some, trying to get an older magazine cover sort of feel. Always wanted to put an "Outdoors Missouri" title across the top to make it look more like an actual cover, but never got around to it. I believe some of you know him, but I'll avoid using his name out of privacy. I doubt he'll see it here, but somebody might pass it along if they know him.

One pound of meat off a seven lb fish? That thing sounds malnourished.

Two problems- red meat, and it's tough. I've eaten a boatload of them, and think they're fantastic. When you catch one, keep the larger, more plump ones- 2 lb and up is a good metric, or anything that looks like it'll give a good fillet. I like to cut a gill, and throw them in ice so they bleed out and preserve the meat quality (I do this with catfish, white bass, and walleye too). Fillet the fish like you would a white bass, leaving the red meat on the skin, then cut out the mud line and heavy pin bones together. There isn't any meat over the ribs, so don't bother with that. If you're frying the fish, cut into slices against the grain, bread it and deep fry fast and hot so it doesn't have time to get tough- you wind up with drum nuggets that are a fantastic appetizer. It's usually more popular than blue cat taken from the same water, and disappears first. It makes excellent blackened fish, as well, and holds up really well on the grill. I tried boiling it once, but wasn't impressed. It's really good in a fish creole, with onion, garlic, celery, a can of Rotel, Cajun spices, cooked down and served over rice. I've heard the big ones are really good baked with butter and onions, too, but low and slow. I've yet to try that, and don't know if I'll get a chance to do that since moving to Montana. I cannot recommend healthy-looking drum enough as a food fish, especially if you're looking to do something other than fry it.

The "hunt" consisted of hiking 2 miles and 1500' up, barely making it to the bench to start still hunting out to a glassing point, and running into this guy with his doe. But the deer aside, the friends I was hunting with made it a trip I won't forget. I know it's not for everyone, and there's things about Missouri that I miss, but I am enjoying it out here.

Thought you guys might enjoy another post from out West. Mountain hunting is somewhat romantic. And by that, I mean it lures you in with something pretty, then repeatedly beats you down. Yet you keep coming back for more, thinking it will be better next time. But occasionally it works out. Got my first mule deer thanks to a bit of boot leather and a lot of luck. Way up above the truck, with a couple great friends- definitely a group effort hunt. Couldn't have asked for a better weekend.

Johnsfolly? Never heard of him. 😁 But I'd recommend getting some folks together to split gas costs, and apply for Wyoming. Tags are cheaper, population is better, and and it's slightly closer to Missouri. Not as prone to October snow, either. Start saving & planning now, and you could be hunting 2020 or 2021. Make a plan and stick to it, then go fill a tag!

Your photo is about the best I've seen of those Little Piney fish- they're plump, fiesty, with bold parr marks and stripes, and spots mostly above the lateral line. Their backs always looked more tan/khaki compared to other rainbows.Always wished I could've gotten a better photo of them. For topwater- #12-18 Adams & elk hairs, #14 Royal Wulff, or a #12 chubby chernobyl will keep you entertained on smaller rising fish. Attractors and suggestive patterns work best, but they have to be able to see them.

Got my first antelope yesterday, in eastern Montana. Three hour drive one way, which is why I look like I need a nap (because I do). Really liking the spot-and-stalk type of hunting out here. Liking the Block Management program to open private land for public hunting. Not liking the smell on these critters. Finally got some meat in the freezer!

There's a lot of high-quality info in that one little sentence. I was lucky enough to have HW share some tips with me a few years back, and I managed to luck into a sauger before moving away. Wish I would've had a chance to fish the Valley Park area when I was back this year. But it was blown out, and there were crappie to chase. I might try applying his techniques to the Yellowstone this year.

Friday morning, public land- that makes two years in a row. Going back to Montana in the morning to chase Merriam's. 10 3/4" beard 3/4" spurs 47 7/8" overall length.

Al, I was really hoping you'd drop in since that is your stomping grounds. And you got it- the City Park. I imagine the river will come back to the near channel soon enough, given how the river swings, plus the amount of snowpack this year. It is too bad you aren't here. But if you were in Montana, we wouldn't have your posts from the Ozarks to enjoy. I'm out here full-time (minus next week in the Ozarks), so I plan to make the most of the time I have. I started bleeding all my fish and cutting out the red meat a few years ago- white bass and catfish were the first, but it helps buffalo & Asian carp tremendously. Trout and salmon (also oily and bloody) really benefit from it. But even crappie are better with this treatment, especially in the summer months (more from the bleeding on ice than the mud line). And I'm now realizing how much fish I used to eat... Having said that, I guess I need to start tying more streamers to throw- I can't even imagine how a big whitefish pulls.

From what I can tell, the bones in the fillets are single pin bones, like a larger trout/salmon/bass/white bass, instead of the "y-bones" like a pike, or the forked kind in a carp/grasscarp/Asian carp, or the star-shaped y-bones in any sucker/buffalo. Smoked fish is fine, but I still want my fried fish. And if I'm as good with a knife as I pretend to be, this could be the hot ticket. I'll probably try to keep 5 decent ones or so the next time I go out, to see if I'm just blowing smoke. Probably no pictures, though- don't want to slime up the camera.

They do everything you could want, except eat big streamers and jump. Next up- taste test. I really miss having crappie and sunfish around to get a fish fry together.