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I have pseudo set a goal of trout in every state. I say pseudo because I have not done research to confirm trout are available is every state. Here I will keep track of states and locations. Overall my goal is the get a native/self supporting as possible although that may not be possible. In cases where Trout is not possible, I will likely defer to state specific native species. Alabama-Sipsey Fork-Stocked rainbows Alaska Arizona-Rainbow-Wildcat crossing(Black River), Brown-Little Colorado upstream of Greer, Gila-Dude Creek, Apache-West Fork of Black River(Thompson Meadows), Brook-Hall Creek, Artic Gralying-Acker Lake, Apache-Acker Lake, Cutthroat-Luna Lake, Rainbow Luna Lake, Arkansas-Rainbow/Browns-Beaver Dam Tailwater, NF tailwater, BS Tailwater+Brook California-Eagle Lake Rainbow-Crater Lake, Goose Lake Redband-Lassen Creek, McCloud Redband-McCloud above Falls. Colorado-Greenback Cutt-Herman Gulch, Rainbow/Brown-Big Thompson, Colorado Cutthroat-Mohawk Lakes Connecticut Delaware Florida Georgia-Sarah's Creek-Brown Trout Hawaii Idaho-Redband-Mores Creek above Idaho City Illinois-Rainbow. Mt. Vernon Veterans Memorial City Pond Indiana Iowa Kansas-MLWA Trout pit #30 Kentucky Louisiana Maine Maryland Massachusetts Michigan Minnesota Mississippi-Lake Lamar Bruce Bank Fishing Pond-Rainbow Stocked Missouri-Rainbow/Brown-Taneycomo, Roaring River- All rivers of Blue Ribbon trout slam Montana-Brook and Westslope-Big Bear Lake, Maney Lake Nebraska-Brown- Middle Fork Soldier Creek, Brook-Wood Reserve Trout Pond, Cutthroat-Wood Reserve Pond, Rainbow-Grabel Ponds Nevada-Lahontan Cutthroat-Pyramid Lake, Gance Creek New Hampshire New Jersey New Mexico- Brook-Cabresto Lake, Gila-Mineral Creek, Rio Cutthroat-San Cristobal Creek, Brown/Rainbow-San Juan New York North Carolina North Dakota- Camels Hump Lake- Stocked Rainbow Trout Ohio Oklahoma Oregon-Bull Trout-Metolius/Wenaha, Redband-Crooked River Pennsylvania Rhode Island South Carolina South Dakota- Spearfish creek, Castle Creek-Browns, Rainbows, Brook trout Tennessee-Sycamore Creek-Brook, Rainbow Texas-Rainbow- Guadalupe River Utah-Entire Cuttslam+Tiger Trout+Brook trout, North Fork Ogden, Upper Bear River, East Fork Blacks Fork, Upper Provo Vermont Virginia Washington-Coastal Cutthroat-Deschutes River West Virginia Wisconsin Wyoming-Entire Cuttslam + Lake Trout, La Barge Creek, Salt Creek, Snake River, Soda Butte Creek, Lamar River
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Missouri/Arkansas Master Angler Awards
Devan S. replied to Devan S.'s topic in General Angling Discussion
I've fished Bob Kidd a couple times and I think it has potential and we figuratively filled a cooler of big gills but nothing close to 1lb. A bunch of .6 to .7lb fish and a couple .7 lb Redears. -
Missouri/Arkansas Master Angler Awards
Devan S. replied to Devan S.'s topic in General Angling Discussion
I've seen some indication of swepco having some big redear and some bigger catfish. I've considered a trip but mostly held off due to overall pressure/parking. At the end of the day, I'm mostly a weekend warrior. The problem with redear is that they are bigger but the requirement is 1.5lbs. For the bluegill specifically I've tried to find smaller bodies of water that are devoid of the larger predator fish(catfish, bigger bass). I think a place where there is potentially an abundance of small bass would keep overall numbers low and allow the bigger fish to escape predation. I've got a spot I have fished 10-12 times and caught some good fish but nothing bigger than .7lbs. It honestly maybe that rock bass becomes the easier option. The Ark state record longear was caught in table rock so who knows.... -
Missouri/Arkansas Master Angler Awards
Devan S. replied to Devan S.'s topic in General Angling Discussion
I'm really down to 4 categories: + I want a 25lb Striper just for the rush. I've caught a couple in the upper teens and set a goal so here we go. Perch: Just almost 99% positive this will be an Arkansas TRL walleye. I've been close a couple time but haven't gotten there yet. There is an off hand chance at a Sauger at Ozark L&D but I've travelled there 4 times and haven't caught anything yet but would like one for species. Trout: Based on time, my most "fished for fish" although the overlap between Trout and Walleye below Beaver is enough that "any given time". Honestly I expected based on location and volume of fishing time one of these would already be done. I'm going to start expanding my trips toward BS/Norfork tailwaters to up my odds at trout. The ability to fish from the bank makes this attractive before or after work for shorter commitment trips. Catfish: I've tried up around Holiday Island from the bank a time or 2 with nothing. Beaver certainly has flats, channels, and blues big enough but rod and reel really limits things. If it were jugs and/or set lines I think I could pull this off really easily. We will see. Right now its really not a priority. I think there are more target rich locations in Arkansas for all 4 species than the NW corner. Bream: I really think in NWA this is the hardest category. Possible, yes. Likely, no. I cannot tell you how many bluegill, green sunfish, longears I have weighed. I've double, triple, quadruple checked my scales are accurate at the sub 1 lb marks. I've really never been close. I know google has information on lots of lakes that say 1 lb Bluegill but I just don't know that I can trust it. Until you really start putting numbers of Bream on a scale for weight....you don't really realize how big a 1 lber is. -
Missouri/Arkansas Master Angler Awards
Devan S. replied to Devan S.'s topic in General Angling Discussion
Crappie 2.5lbs both blacks and white. I knew going in this would be tough. I enjoy crappie but don't have live scope and all my life probably have seen 1 crappie in my life in the realm of 2.5lbs. I have spent a couple years and probably 5-6 trips down south to Millwood lake chasing big pre spawn-Crappie. Taking wife, friends, ect down and doing live scope trips with a guide to fill a cooler. Millwood/Arkansas have generous limits and after the first time fishing with Jared I knew I'd be back. Its a good way to have a good time and bring back enough fish for a fry and then some. There is a ton of Crappie tournament results for Arkansas online and based on the results and guides is how I ended up at Millwood. I really think it has a reasonable shot a 3lb Crappie in Arkansas in early spring. Over the 5-6 trips I have caught maybe 25 fish between 2-2.5lbs. Again 16 or 17" fish with golf balls in their bellies. Not true 2.5lbers but pre-spawn fat fish that hit the mark with eggs. This year I finally hit 2.5 after having several in the 2.4 range. This one I question multiple times. After being so close several times I weighed 3 times. 2.51, 2.52, 2.49. Close enough and plus I'll be back. -
Missouri/Arkansas Master Angler Awards
Devan S. replied to Devan S.'s topic in General Angling Discussion
All the remainder of '21 and into 2022 I struggled. Focusing on fishing reasonably locally at the right times. Walleye spring, striper winter/spring, trout fall/winter, Bluegill spring summer. Ect. I was overwhelmed....multiple species and spread thin. As I recall I caught walleye and trout in excess of 8lbs in Kings river and below Beaver respectively but that was as close as I had been. I had mostly kept fishing the right locations but cared less about the goal. Someone at work told me they were working over the big whites up below Beaver Dam. Wouldn't give me a spot but said...its specific....start at houseman and fish down until you find them. Said they estimated their big fish were 3.5 to 4lbs and 18 to 20" and lots of them. Not just a 1 or 2 deal. Good enough for me to check out. I fished down...until I had chasers on a A-rig. Then began working them with an 1/8oz zig jig. The flood gates were open albeit just barely and the fish were stacked up on an inside bend eddy. I was the only boat there. Most others were chasing late season walleye stragglers in May. Whites only need to be 3.5lbs. I don't like to eat them so was CnR only. I don't recall the numbers.....and you wouldn't believe me if I did say them but I wore out multiple white zig jigs. No marabou; coming untied. I weighed a bunch of 3+lb, 18" whites that just would not hit the 3.5lb mark. 3.2, 3.3, 3.4....over and over...A lot of fun. Most looked like they were packing golf balls in their stomachs. Unfortunately I was solo. I finally hit a 3.52lb fish. Frankly it was fun catching but I'm not happy and still chasing the 25lb striper. -
Missouri/Arkansas Master Angler Awards
Devan S. replied to Devan S.'s topic in General Angling Discussion
Overall I enjoy any species but walleye, big gills, whites, and crappie has been what I have chased in Mo. as a kid. Although I grew up in Golden I had never fished Beaver lake but I know Striper was a likely an easier target for "temperate bass". I've caught a bunch of big whites as a kid but never in the Arkansas portion of TRL so I set out focus on Striper on Beaver as my check mark. In the process of throwing early spring top water, for Striper near Indian Creek I have caught 3 small mouth in rough master angler size. These are all May time period big top water fish caught on the obvious main lake points in the dam area chasing swirling striper. To be fair this was 100% accidental all 3 times and in all 3 cases the fish were essentially 3.5lbs. I worried about this group early on. I don't like fishing for bass, river bass are fun but a 10" is as good as a 3.5 lber for me. I will say...hindsight tells me this would be hard if I didn't luck into it like I did and that smallmouth in the right location is probably much easier than the other 2 options. Original thread here: -
Missouri/Arkansas Master Angler Awards
Devan S. replied to Devan S.'s topic in General Angling Discussion
As a challenge I have focused on this specifically for several years and thought I would break down how things have gone, research into locations and how things should go(at least according to my plan). To date I have caught fish qualifying for 4 Arkansas master angler awards which also qualifies me for the coin. I also have 2 additional fish that I did not submit that would duplicate other fish. The first category I targeted and was successful was miscellaneous. I had planned for gar or paddlefish but knew there was a good run of spoonies below Beaver dam. FWIW I live about 30 minutes from Beaver dam so it was an easier target. After a couple failures....someone showed me the ways and I quickly connected. I don't fish this category at all. I think Bowfin would be fun to chase but at the time I wasn't nearly as interested in species as I am now. The original catch thread is here: -
Tons of people I know talk about going over to OK to catch those Mississippi whites.....
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@BilletHead sounds like we are on similar paths. Sawmill canyon is on our list. Of course there is others options but not a lot so that is target #1. Mirror lake scenic byway is the route I had selected out of SLC and eastward along the upper provo. Lots of lakes and best I can tell several stocked with tigers. I had not stumbled upon Star Lake. Will add it to the list. My concern with the Washington/Trail lakes campground area is use and harvest of tigers. I had some numbered bear lake watershed lakes just down the road along the mirror lake scenic byway. They had been stocked in the last year or 2 and show to be bushwhack hikes at best.
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As these things do, we gain insight and species goals begin to develop beyond the existing targets. Here is a some additional lifers we would like to luck into: Tiger trout-Utah has stocked lakes all over so its really about finding a good option along the way. Lake trout-Obviously several options in GTNP and YNP. I don't know if it will happen but we are bringing jigs and spinning rods so the ability to fish deeper will be available. Whitefish-Seems that they are everywhere. Maybe we can luck into some. Goldens-I've been scoping some locations in WY. Its likely going to be a time commitment to hike to something so we will see.
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At this point, I will take what I can get for recommendations. Believe it or not....this trip is harder to plan. Previous trips have had many limitations on when/what spots could be used for various slams. Outside MT this is wide open and it seems as if there is plenty of acceptable options outside the already discussed limitations. Here is my first swag at leg 1. I figure it would take us to maybe early mid-day 2 to cover this water and probably get us 3/4 of the way to UT Cuttslam the chief goal here is to get out east for the Colorado CT but check others along the way. Target 1 would be the Upper Provo river for Bonneville CT. Seems several miles of stream parallel to the road. Lots of campgrounds. There is also a bunch of lakes in the area...if we wanted to explore something still waterish. Target 2 would be Bear River for Bear River CT. This is right where the path juts off due east. Again great access area and lots of camping. Mostly likely the "STOP" for night 1. May or may not fish this area on day 1. Target 3 would be the East fork of the Blacks fork for Colorado CT. The jut east is all dirt/gravel road so no idea what we will get into but again lots of options for camping/lakes, ect. From here we have 2 roughly equidistant choices - North into WY and onto the next slams(we could theoretically pick up Colorado CT in WY on the blacks fork vs. la barge creek) A bit north(maybe have a shot at blacks fork WY and then west to UT for Yellowstone CT.
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In MT it looks like Elk lake has nice west slopes, grayling, lake trout....no idea how easy or not but its fairly close to where we are going to be. In WY Tri-basin is a good base spot. Like you said Salt River/Creek are both "on our way". The map shows a bunch of blue lines. I have no doubt we can simply catch small natives in a lot of spots. We are obviously going to be right in the midst of Yellowstone/Tetons so there's always options there too. The nice things is that this trip doesn't have multiple 5-8hr drives to get from spot to spot like previous trips. Lots of ability to go a couple hours and fish. Lots of people say they do the Cutt slams in 1-2 days so we feel like we have more time to explore and less windshield time. We just don't want to miss out on something cool if we can keep from it. Maybe even catch some other species....whitefish.
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Here is a rough outline: Day 1-land in SLC mid-day. Per the UT cutt-slam map....we should be able to find Bonneville close by-No specific stream picked yet. Would be nice to get Colorado Cutts too but nothing specific picked out yet either. Day 2-3 maybe shuffled around a bit to maximize daylight fishing but we have to make a trek out to west Utah to get Yellowstone Cutts(limited options) and then circle back to probably get bear river cutts going North out of UT toward WY. WY - We are probably headed to Tri-basin divide to fish la barge creek for our Colorado Cutt...to get there we will go over multiple bear river cutt spots. Snake River and Yellowstone have pretty prolific areas to catch. Nothing at this point set in stone. UT/WY is about the state specific slams and dragging along species for the Western Native. MT is a bit different. They don't recognize fishing challenges so for the Western Native we limited to very specific spots(stocked locations). Right now we have targets Elk Lake which is North of Red Rock lake. I would say generally western part of WY, Northern UT, and very limited MT. Again we haven't really selected a specific stream/spot in more than about 2 or 3 spots.
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Starting to plan out my July trip. Planning on Utah/Wyoming/just a touch of Montana. Is there any place/stream/location that is a must hit or things we absolutely shouldn't miss? Obviously going to do the Utah/Wyoming cutt-slams and jumping across into Montana to fish one or 2 spots. We should have plenty of time vs. previous trips.
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I passed up chasing a shad bite below the dam and found some of those top water stripers. Nothing big but ended up catching 7 total. Pretty good day. Had one good follow on the fly rod too.
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I'm starting to plan my next moves for states to check off and ND/SD. One spot that consistently comes up for trout is Garrison Dam tailrace but there is not a lot of details. Is this a reasonable spot for Trout? ND says they stock but all the details show catfish, walleye not trout. Is this even a place one could bank fish and stand a chance? I am certain its water level dependent. Just trying to get some general information.
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Fire Neds.....Pautzke said so. Copy and paste from their website: The Pioneers of Trout Fishing have designed a new way to fish for trout. Introducing Fire Neds, a remastering of the popular bass fishing technique with a new trout twist. Fire Neds are designed to make catching trout easier than ever with micro finesse techniques that will make even the most finnicky bite.
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I've been slinking around the dam area a lot lately with the rivers not producing. I'm having a ball with the smallmouth lately on jerkbaits and keitechs and never having to pull the boat along for the trip. I need to check out the back on Indian though and see if I can find some cats.
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Bucket List Item: catch a fish in all 50 States
Devan S. replied to Ham's topic in General Angling Discussion
As I recall CA, OR, WA was along the $20/day and Pyramid Lake in NV was like $25/day. -
Bucket List Item: catch a fish in all 50 States
Devan S. replied to Ham's topic in General Angling Discussion
Planning on rounding out UT, WY, MT this year, will likely bag OK too. Then if time allows may take a quick run to the driftless and try to get 3-4. This is trout only. Adding other fish and it goes up. -
Bucket List Item: catch a fish in all 50 States
Devan S. replied to Ham's topic in General Angling Discussion
I sorta am, I would like to stick to trout but there is some out there that become tricky so I may get creative when it gets down to the final innings. -
Count me in on the resisting the force. This is the exact kind of setup I want though.
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I'm going to push the UT/WY slams to 2024/ Traded the 4 states for the Western Native for 5 states. Only managed to catch 1 Arkansas Master Angler (3.54lb White bass). Had an 8+ Walleye, 2.36lb Crappie with a couple more between 2 and 2.36lb.
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2024: 1. Utah and Wyoming Cutt-slams, complete Montana for WNTC 2. 1 Arkansas master angler fish. I really want this to be Walleye (9lbs) but we will see. 3. 10lb Pyramid lake Cutty.
