I fish streamers most of the time...I tie them all sizes...when I fish the Niangua, sometimes I'll let out about 30 feet of line, move my rod all the way from the right to the left and s l o w l y move my way down stream, never letting my streamer out of the water...maybe not traditional fly fishing but very effective and covers LOTS of water...just returned from the Sierras and fished streamers there too. plus they are fun to tie...