He has a top 10 in a Costa event on LOZ in the fall flipping docks with jigs and Shakey heads. He fished all 3 qualifers to fish the championship at Table Rock that year. I think he cashed 2 out 3 tournaments. He can catch them other ways besides the A-RIG. For the most part, the really good fisherman that have been successful pre-aRig to now are still winning. Example: Fann Brothers, Mr. Wenners, Scott Boaz, Tim Sherrill,Josh Busby, Eric Hammond. all these guys have logged time on the water and use their instincts to make adjustments.