Well me, my grandpa, my fishing buddy, and his dad went to beaver last night and didn't catch anything, didn't look like anyone was catching anything till we saw one guy pull up a full stringer and leave... we fished till just after dark no bites at all. I'm not sure if its something we are doing(or not doing) but maybe the whites just arent back in the creeks yet. btw we were using purple/whtie/motor oil swimming minnows, worms, and live minnows.